not sore enough...grrr!

**minime** · 12-Apr-06, 06:00 AM

I'm annoyed that when i woke this morning I wasn't almost crippled with leg pain after my workout last nite... On monday I did upper body, and woke yesterday in a LOT of pain (and today it still hurts a lot) but my legs seem only a bit sore,nothing compared to upper body. Why does the upper body take more of a bashing? Is it coz the muscles are weaker?

I lifted heavy as i could leg press(60kg), extension(45kg), curl(25kg im weak!),DB squat(2*8kgs) and deadlifts(2*5kgs coz they feel tougher on my back). I did several sets of each, 4-8 reps

Is it weird to want pain?!

AlexR · 12-Apr-06, 06:07 AM

If your anything like me your legs will hurt more tomorrow morning.

Pain or "Soreness" however is no indication of the results of the workout. Only time will tell on that one, but so long as you pushed yourself and felt good about it then there is no reason to view it as unsuccesful.

**Lady C** · 12-Apr-06, 11:29 AM

Just keep in mind legs are big muscles. I'm sure you did good. I am typically really sore two days after the workout. I did legs Monday and still can hardly bend down to pick stuff up.

Try squatting more with the DBs. I can squat my bodyweight. Try 12-15kgs next time. Work you way up to your bodyweight. Try straight leg deadlifts instead of the curls. You WILL fill the hamstrings the next several days.

**minime** · 13-Apr-06, 04:28 AM

thanks alex & ladyC as the day progressed, my legs did get sorer and they hurt today too - still not as much as my arms did yesterday though!

I don't think i can move up to 12-15kg yet - i find the eights to be quite heavy already! Next week I will move up to 9s if I feel up to it

I've a long way to go before i can squat my body weight - that would take two 23kg dumbells! aah - i think i would break my arms with those

For the deadlifts my legs were pretty straight, slight bend in the knee only. I only used the light weights coz of the twinge i was feeling in the lower back, im not sure if thats normal i need to do more deadlift research...will check the boards later.

thanks!

**Lady C** · 13-Apr-06, 08:44 AM

If you are going to stick with dumbbells then wrist straps are a must. I can barely hold 40lbs(18kg) for very long. Wrist straps makes it easier to hold the weight and concentrate on the move and not losing your grip.

If your gym has a barbell and a rack then you can switch to those.

fitricise · 13-Apr-06, 10:25 AM

it could be that youre eating right, DOMS has a bunch of studies associated with improper nutrients/water. ill post studies later

fitricise · 13-Apr-06, 02:05 PM

ok I spoke too soon. seems those studies have others refuting them.

alex summed it up nicely "
Pain or "Soreness" however is no indication of the results of the workout"

if indeed it is DOMS, from what ive gathered it is more of a molecular damage than full tissue, and some abstracts suggest lifting with normal weight for the next session is ok, one even suggesting it is better. DOMS is still rather mysterious I guess

**.V.** · 14-Apr-06, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitricise

Pain or "Soreness" however is no indication of the results of the workout

yep.

I've found that when I get acclimated to a workout I don't get it nearly as bad. And if my nutrition is in order is is much less too. Of course that's just anecdotal and not a study but it seems to be true for me.

As one person put it..."you've got doms? You've got lots of little micro tears in the muscle fibers and acid build up in the muscle - congratulations"

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fitricise · 06-May-06, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by a_welch503

As one person put it..."you've got doms? You've got lots of little micro tears in the muscle fibers and acid build up in the muscle - congratulations"

i dunno who said that, but i dont think its acid buildup, just micro tears

lactate has most recently been shown to not be the cause of muscle soreness

a misconception that myself and id venture 99% of all endurance athletes have, is that "lactic acid" is bad for you. it's actually the opposite