Bodybuilding or Power Training ?

[ihaveadog]

K, So lets see, thats what Ive been saying for the past 3 posts and still yet members try to down me. XD

[Cort]

Originally Posted by DarkLord

now that's cleared up with thanks to you guys, how often should one include power training for strength every so often?

As has been said, do what suits your goals. If you explain what you're wanting to achieve, people will be able to give better advice.

If it's just size or an impressive physique you're after, powerlifting by itself probably won't be your best bet. I actually stick to it because I prefer building up my 1rm in those three lifts while adding as little size as possible.

[DarkLord]

If anyone has the Arnold Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding, in there it has Arnold giving an example of how "he" trained chest like this..20, 10, 5, 3, 1 rep. He also states that unless you include low-rep, strength training, you will never achieve the hardness and density necessary to create a champ physique. Well at least I understand what power training is now and got a bit confused with power lifting but they are the same. I understand that "weightlifting" and "weight training" are different, but that discussion for another time.

[Dan C]

Originally Posted by DarkLord

Well at least I understand what power training is now and got a bit confused with power lifting but they are the same.

POWER TRAINING AND POWERLIFTING ARE NOT THE SAME!!!

[maverick]

Before Dan loses his mind, lets establish a few things here. Powerlifting and power training are not the same. Powerlifting is competition involving 3 very specific events (bench, squat, deadlift). There are PL competitions involving others, but these are the most common. In powerlifting, speed is of no concern. The men/women moving these weights are very good at moving those weights, but do not necessarily have much in the way of power output (outside of those 3 lifts), as Dan mentioned is both strength AND speed.

Power training on the other hand, as I understand it, is far more athletic. Plyometrics, dynamic exercises like olympic lifts, sprints, and other exercises where speed and coordination are of utmost importance.

[Dan C]

Power training is a specific kind of strength training. It's purpose is to produce force (mass * acceleration) in the shortest amount of time.

You know the "dynamic effort" training Westside uses? That is power training for powerlifting. Clear as mud?

Read this...

Weight Training Guidelines

Notice the 30-60% 1RM loading? Too light for optimizing hypertrophy.

These are traditional power training exercises.

Power Training Exercises

[gymgirl]

Originally Posted by maverick

Before Dan loses his mind, lets establish a few things here. Powerlifting and power training are not the same. Powerlifting is competition involving 3 very specific events (bench, squat, deadlift). There are PL competitions involving others, but these are the most common. In powerlifting, speed is of no concern. The men/women moving these weights are very good at moving those weights, but do not necessarily have much in the way of power output (outside of those 3 lifts), as Dan mentioned is both strength AND speed.

Power training on the other hand, as I understand it, is far more athletic. Plyometrics, dynamic exercises like olympic lifts, sprints, and other exercises where speed and coordination are of utmost importance.

well said Maverick, you summed that up very nicely. With power training I believe you are getting the neuromuscular system to produce the greatest possible force in the shortest amount of time, which is very different from power lifting.

[gymgirl]

Originally Posted by Dan C

Power training is a specific kind of strength training. It's purpose is to produce force (mass * acceleration) in the shortest amount of time.

You know the "dynamic effort" training Westside uses? That is power training for powerlifting. Clear as mud?

Read this...

Weight Training Guidelines

Notice the 30-60% 1RM loading? Too light for optimizing hypertrophy.

These are traditional power training exercises.

Power Training Exercises

ooops I missed your post....what dan said too! :

[CF-OC_gal]

If you want to look like a bodybuilder train like one.

If you want to look like someone who does powertraining does, then train like one.

If powertraining was better than bodybuilding for gaining "bodybuilder-type mass" then bodybuilders would use that training method and call it bodybuilding.

There are lots of ectomorphs who have respectable and competitive physiques with mass in bodybuilding (just look at Todd).

Get your goals straight and your training will follow.

[Dan C]

Originally Posted by Brat

If you want to look like a bodybuilder train like one.

If you want to look like someone who does powertraining does, then train like one.

If powertraining was better than bodybuilding for gaining "bodybuilder-type mass" then bodybuilders would use that training method and call it bodybuilding.

There are lots of ectomorphs who have respectable and competitive physiques with mass in bodybuilding (just look at Todd).

Get your goals straight and your training will follow.

Pretty strait forward Brat. : I don't think goals were ever established here.

Though I would say if you want the want the athletic traits that accompany powertraining, then go for it. Power training is not something you do for looks.

[.V.]

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