Deadlift....Best all Round Exercise?

[DarkLord]

I have heard from many people that deadlifting is the best and probably the overall ultimate exercise for all round body strength and size. Is this so?

[threenorns]

it's because you handle the most amount of weight, which primes your central nervous system.

[DarkLord]

You've just jogged my memory. When I was down the gym on Saturday I saw this black lad who I see down there on and off doing deadlifts in the way that would make you squirm. He was doing it with a fair bit of speed bit he was lifting heavy, AND his knees were literally straight with a slightly rounded back. Ooohh, I know that's really asking for trouble, I'm sure even you threenorns probably know that's wrong?

[.V.]

Stiff legs - great for the hams, he just needs to flatten that low back out so he doesn't hurt it. And bend the knees slightly - show him the right way, he may thank you for it.

[DarkLord]

The trouble is I SHOULD say something but he might say "mind your own buisness" or sod off for all I know. Things will be different when I become a fitness instructor.

[j407]

Originally Posted by DarkLord

You've just jogged my memory. When I was down the gym on Saturday I saw this black lad who I see down there on and off doing deadlifts in the way that would make you squirm. He was doing it with a fair bit of speed bit he was lifting heavy, AND his knees were literally straight with a slightly rounded back. Ooohh, I know that's really asking for trouble, I'm sure even you threenorns probably know that's wrong?

i lift pretty heavy on the deadlift but i cant help but round my back alittle. is it imporant to keep your back sraight. or can you still make any gains while doing it the way i do?

[Barry]

Originally Posted by j407

i lift pretty heavy on the deadlift but i cant help but round my back alittle. is it imporant to keep your back sraight. or can you still make any gains while doing it the way i do?

The problem is when you round your back, you are taking the spine out of alignment which can cause uneven compression between discs and cause a serious and permanent injury to your back.

[nate]

Best All round exercise = Squat.

You lose, good day sir.

[Klinger]

Originally Posted by DarkLord

I have heard from many people that deadlifting is the best and probably the overall ultimate exercise for all round body strength and size. Is this so?

It's way up there for sure. Luckily you don't have to choose just one.

My take on the best movements, in order: DL, squat, pullup, overhead press, decline bench.

[luke.w]

Originally Posted by j407

i lift pretty heavy on the deadlift but i cant help but round my back alittle. is it imporant to keep your back sraight. or can you still make any gains while doing it the way i do?

Every pic I've seen of a powerlifter deadlifting, the lifter's back is rounded a tad, and these are mostly the near max weights, actually I've never seen a powerlifter not round the back a tad on deadlifts,
Olyimpic lifters are the only people I've seen use a flat back, and keep it flat, thats using all legs there.

I have a training hall tape from china, it's 14-19 year old future world champs for olyimpic lifting, and even these kids are doing heavy pulls and getting set-up with a flat back, but then the weight forces thier backs to SLIGHTLY round.

When lifting any odd object stones,bags boxes, it's only natural to round the back, so lifting with a rounded back isn't really dissasterous, YOU NEED A STRONG CORE, and you need to learn how to use your hips,glutes,and legs into the movement when the back is slightly rounded.

this is why average people have back problems they don't know how to do this, so they lift disasterly their whole life, and then just assme weightlifting is bad.

This is a good reason why strength training should be #1 first, because bodybuilding doesn't teach this every well

[Firehawk]

Originally Posted by luke.w

Every pic I've seen of a powerlifter deadlifting, the lifter's back is rounded a tad, and these are mostly the near max weights, actually I've never seen a powerlifter not round the back a tad on deadlifts,
Olyimpic lifters are the only people I've seen use a flat back, and keep it flat, thats using all legs there.

I have a training hall tape from china, it's 14-19 year old future world champs for olyimpic lifting, and even these kids are doing heavy pulls and getting set-up with a flat back, but then the weight forces thier backs to SLIGHTLY round.

When lifting any odd object stones,bags boxes, it's only natural to round the back, so lifting with a rounded back isn't really dissasterous, YOU NEED A STRONG CORE, and you need to learn how to use your hips,glutes,and legs into the movement when the back is slightly rounded.

this is why average people have back problems they don't know how to do this, so they lift disasterly their whole life, and then just assme weightlifting is bad.

This is a good reason why strength training should be #1 first, because bodybuilding doesn't teach this every well

Gosh you are so smart Luke!

So true. I cannot keep my back perfectly straight either when i deadlift. I try to as best i can by keeping my head UP (look at the damn ceiling not the mirror in front of you) NOT STRAIGHT. The back will round slightly but it doesn't round completely which will definitely cause a problem. If you watch some of the heaviest deadlifts like Gary Frank who had a 931 pull for the world record, his back was slightly rounded, SLIGHTLY. You kinda have to to get in the right position.

I love deadlifting, it's by far my favorite lift out of the big 3.

[luke.w]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

Gosh you are so smart Luke!
The back will round slightly but it doesn't round completely which will definitely cause a problem.
I love deadlifting, it's by far my favorite lift out of the big 3.

gee thanks man that means alot coming from you!!!

and yeah if the back completly rounds it means too heavy, and you need more practice and core strength, the only time the back rounds alot is stonelifting and tire flipping BUT, there is a BETTER center of gravity there and it strenthens the core up.

[Firehawk]

Strengthening the core...the long lost art!

Powerlifting is 90% posterior core training. Without it you got nothing. Training the back even helps benching!

Luke,

When you say something like this: "This is a good reason why strength training should be #1 first, because bodybuilding doesn't teach this every well "



it makes my nipples hard as bricks man... LMAO.

[.V.]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

it makes my nipples hard as bricks man... LMAO.

No pics please.

[MostMuscle]

My vote would be a clean & press, but deads are very good also.