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30-Sep-04, 02:51 PM
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Quick question. I was told that the higher or the more weight you lifted the more aggressive(not in a good way) or angry - short tempered you would get and to back off of 300+ lbs and cut back to not over 185 lbs. This is the most ridiculious thing I have heard. Your thoughts anyone?
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30-Sep-04, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gan4445
Quick question. I was told that the higher or the more weight you lifted the more aggressive(not in a good way) or angry - short tempered you would get and to back off of 300+ lbs and cut back to not over 185 lbs. This is the most ridiculious thing I have heard. Your thoughts anyone?
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??? That made no sense. If you are saying the more you lift the more aggressive you are than that is bull****.
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01-Oct-04, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gan4445
Quick question. I was told that the higher or the more weight you lifted the more aggressive(not in a good way) or angry - short tempered you would get and to back off of 300+ lbs and cut back to not over 185 lbs. This is the most ridiculious thing I have heard. Your thoughts anyone?
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It's pretty ridiculous. Were they saying not to lift more than 300lbs and not weigh more than 185lbs? I take it that it was a really skinny guy that told you this?
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04-Oct-04, 01:05 PM
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It was a physcologist that told that to a friend of mine. I know that the gym atmosphere is competive, but that is encouraging to reach your goals and improve/ better yourself. The workout routines are normal controled and safe routines. I just don't see how the amount of weight you lift will make you nuts. I think the "DR." is nuts! If you are already and angry person the more lbs you lift isn't gonna change that. Not reaching my goal would be a let down. Reaching my goal would make me happy not mad? Am I wrong? I would like to see some scientific proof of his claim! :confused:
Oh and I found out the guy was tall and skinny!
Last edited by gan4445; 05-Oct-04 at 09:07 AM.
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28-Nov-04, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by beefcurry1
because most people dont know that if you want to lift heavy you arent suppose to go to failure.
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What constitutes failure? Are you talking about positive failure, or any kind of failure? Meaning, for instance, Lets say I set out to do a set of 4 reps. I get all 4, but barely get the 4th, and know for sure there's no way I could get 5 reps. Is this considered "failure"?
Or is it only considered failure when you continue to do reps until you can't complete the last rep, but tried anyway?
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29-Nov-04, 10:37 AM
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[quote=Firehawk]What constitutes failure? Are you talking about positive failure, or any kind of failure? Meaning, for instance, Lets say I set out to do a set of 4 reps. I get all 4, but barely get the 4th, and know for sure there's no way I could get 5 reps. Is this considered "failure"?
I really don't know if that is CONSIDERED failure or not, nor do I care, but what I was telling you in your journal is that I find this not a good way to train if your looking for consistant increases in poundages (I trained that way for 3 years) if your doing that every session every week when your pushing yourself that much it screws up the mind, especillay when you stop hitting your #'s and reps. I'm not saying no gains will accur, but they will not be too consistant over time.
If anyone tells you that this way works great, ask them if they use "creatine" or any such supps, or drugs, or lifting aids.
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29-Nov-04, 11:53 AM
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I'd still like to know what people consider "FAILURE" though.
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29-Nov-04, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Firehawk
Or is it only considered failure when you continue to do reps until you can't complete the last rep, but tried anyway?
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This is the definition of failure as I understand it is generally accepted. Defining of course concentric failure.
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30-Nov-04, 12:52 PM
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How is it that big of a difference if you can barely complete your last rep, but you do in fact complete it, as opposed to failing half way into the concentric motion?
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01-Dec-04, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Firehawk
How is it that big of a difference if you can barely complete your last rep, but you do in fact complete it, as opposed to failing half way into the concentric motion?
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Honestly, that's a great question, as far as what happens neurally when you fail, vs, do not attempt the rep during which you would fail, I don't know...but you've got me searching now!
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01-Dec-04, 08:55 AM
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Off topic: Holy crap Firehawk, you've lost a ton of weight!!!! Nice work and keep it up!!!!!
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01-Dec-04, 12:57 PM
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Off topic: Holy crap Firehawk, you've lost a ton of weight!!!! Nice work and keep it up!!!!!
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Oh, thank you!
I hope to be under 15% bf by May, maybe even closer to 10%, depending how much resistance i encounter...i expect alot  .
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12-Mar-05, 02:26 PM
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Muscular failure occurs when the nervous system is sending signals to the muscles, but the muscles are no longer ABLE to function in response to the stimulus
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