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Old 06-Nov-05, 05:23 PM   #91
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Firehawk: This is just my opinion, but i do not think you should use wrist wraps unless you really need them. Keep them for the heavy sets only, IMO. Your setup is pretty good, do you bench to belly with a shirt on? (BTW i wanted to post this message earlier but i think i was on temp. ban for saying something naughty.)
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Old 06-Nov-05, 05:25 PM   #92
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If that guy is out there for the sole purpose of spotting people, God help him he shoudl be fired. If i was there and saw that i would have said something. That's how you injure people.

Don't ask that guy for another hand-off. Did the same guy give you the handoff for 225 and was it the same way? Last thing you need is to injure a shoulder or something. The way he handed it off has torn pecs before with some lifters. We had a long talk about that at my gym, proper way to hand off to people.

The guy needs to bring about 80% of the weight out for you, let you feel it as youb ring it out, bring it out slowly and until you are out over your mouth, then release it slowly so the weight doesnt go "kerplunk" on your muscles. That's why you had to stabilize it, because he just let it all go. You basically took that out of the rack yourself anyway. lol
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Old 06-Nov-05, 05:27 PM   #93
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Firehawk: This is just my opinion, but i do not think you should use wrist wraps unless you really need them. Keep them for the heavy sets only, IMO. Your setup is pretty good, do you bench to belly with a shirt on? (BTW i wanted to post this message earlier but i think i was on temp. ban for saying something naughty.)
I was using the wraps on my heavy sets and thought about not using them on the drop set, but last thing i want to do is tweak a wrist. They want me to use them at the gym when i get over about 75% of my max. When i'm warming up for heavy sets, i do 185 for 3 and don't use wraps till im up over 225 usually. In this case though i had already done my heavy sets and honestly didn't want something bad to happen.

With a shirt i bring it down to my upper abs, I can't really get the weight that low without dumping it. My belly isn't a typical beer belly. From having been overweight most of my life it sags a bit so it doesn't stick straight out lol. K...now that i'm embarassed...

I've only benched a cuople times witha shirt. I'm not training for a shirted bench currently. Still getting my core strength up.
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Old 06-Nov-05, 06:42 PM   #94
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Here's one from the Mid-Atlantic Strongman contest back in the spring. 285 an arm for 20yds, and 860 yoke for 20yds... 90 seconds.

www.bemoretraining.com/vids/farmyoke.wmv

I believe thats a 760lb yoke Dan, Graham has yet to use 800 in a show yet, maybe this year?
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Old 06-Nov-05, 06:52 PM   #95
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Quit paddin the weight DAN!
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Right... 760... don't know where that came from...

I gotta agree Firehawk, lose the wraps now, build your wrist strength and you'll never need them. Continue to use them, neglect your wrists and you'll become dependant on them.
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Everyone posting great videos over the weekend and I was at work unable to get them to play. Finally made it home to see them instead of just reading about them. Great videos guys.
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Old 07-Nov-05, 12:16 PM   #98
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Thanks for the suggestion guys but i'm not going to lose the wraps. Last thing i need is for a wrist to give out and drop the weight on my head.

Hapened to a guy in the gym. He had 500+ on the bar and when he took it out of the rack, the weight slipped right out of his hand because his wrist gave out and if it weren't for a spotter paying close attention, the weight woulda crushed his head.

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definitely a motrin headache.
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Old 07-Nov-05, 03:33 PM   #100
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Was he wearing wraps?
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Old 07-Nov-05, 03:38 PM   #101
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Yeah he wears some weird wraps though. I wear the 36" ones form Inzer. This guy wears some wraps that only go around the wrist once. I dunno. His wrist gave completely i guess. I know you're going to argue that "if he'd had wrist strength this might not have happened". While that's true, flukes can still happen. Wrists can suddenly give, just like knees can.

Sometimes it doesn't matter how strong they are. Just like grip problems. Powerlifters do have to have strong enough grips to hold onto the deadlift bar, and there's been PL meets that some of the guys I train with, as well as Others "cough exmgq cough" were going for a 700+ dead and have nailed it all day long at the gym, then they get to the meet and their grip just isn't there for whatever reason, flukey.

The wraps support you, they don't hold all the weight for you though.
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Firehawk I hope you don't mind me saying, but I notice your calves need working on quite a bit. Please don't think I'm coming down on you like a ton of bricks. As with the benching, like the others say I've never seen it done quite like that before. If there's one thing I like about bench pressing, it's strict heavy negatives. Ohhh yeeaah! Also some of you keep talking about the drive from other parts of your body like legs. Surely your chest is supposed to be doing all the hard work not the legs your back? When I seriously bench, I have someone to spot for me and only help to get the last couple of reps out and I must feel the pecs work for me so I feel really pumped, though I know a pump doesn't mean growth, just pleasure.
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You aren't gonna get a lot of sympathy for your opinion in here darklord. This is a PL oriented thread, big weight is the show here. I agree with some of your points from a BB perspective, but who the hell wants to watch a clip of me doing slow negatives on a bench press?! There's a science to pushing as much weight as possible, and often it disregards hypertrophy, just as strength gains are disregarded for hypertrophy by BB's.
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Firehawk I hope you don't mind me saying, but I notice your calves need working on quite a bit. Please don't think I'm coming down on you like a ton of bricks. As with the benching, like the others say I've never seen it done quite like that before. If there's one thing I like about bench pressing, it's strict heavy negatives. Ohhh yeeaah! Also some of you keep talking about the drive from other parts of your body like legs. Surely your chest is supposed to be doing all the hard work not the legs your back? When I seriously bench, I have someone to spot for me and only help to get the last couple of reps out and I must feel the pecs work for me so I feel really pumped, though I know a pump doesn't mean growth, just pleasure.
My calves are proportionate, it's just the camera. Maybe next video i post up ill flex my calves for you since they are a crucial part of my powerlifting career . They aren't freakish though, but thank you for your suggestion.

The purpose in powerlifting is to put up as much weight as you can. The technique is key. Also, benching this way incorporates more muscles into the movement which can be beneficial for bodybuilders too.

MostMuscle is a bodybuilder and he tucks his elbows. He doesn't use the leg drive though, I'm still working on him .
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lol I think you said it Mav...negatives and calves don't have much to do in the world of powerlifting

Like Dave is saying DarkLord, if you want to put up the most weight possible on your bench press, that's the way to do it (powerlifting style setup).
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