Question about deadlifts

RBjohnson · 10-Oct-04, 08:30 PM

Ok, I've never maxed out on a deadlift before, I've done the lift, but never maxed out. I was just wondering how much your deadlift should be compared to your squat, should it be more or less?

Thanks!

**beefcurry1** · 11-Oct-04, 08:30 AM

most people's deadlifts are higher than their squats. my squat is roughly 360 and my DL is 500. im pretty sure im a deadlifting freak though, but for the most part your DL will be higher.

-beef-

Iain · 11-Oct-04, 11:40 AM

Depends how advanced you are. I believe that at elite level the deadlifts are smaller than the squats, but most guys I know pull more than they can squat. I'm like that.

Those are good numbers beef.

RBjohnson · 12-Oct-04, 06:59 AM

Alright, thanx for the info guys! I'll try it out next time I max out!

Winder · 11-Nov-04, 09:16 PM

Whether the squat or deadlift is greater weight really depends on too many physical attributes to generalize. Arm length, leg length, torso length, form and technique, etc.

Some people have longer arms and better deadlifts than average for their bodyweight.

Often people in the lighter weight classes (114, 123, 132) have better deadlifts than squats.

I saw a very close powerlifting contest where one lifter at 148 had a much better squat than the other lifter at 148. Of course the one with the better squat had the lower deadlift, and it came down to their third deadlifts to determine the winner.

Often people in the heavier weight classes (275 and up) have better squats than deadlifts. The 900+ squat has been hit many more times than the 900+ deadlift.

Part of the difficulty with bigger lifters and deadlifts is that they get in their own way and cannot get into as proper a starting position as the smaller lifters.

FiredUp · 11-Nov-04, 10:37 PM

In today's powerlifting, equipment has made a lot of changes. It shows up drastically in the squat and bench, but not as much as in the deadlift. This is why you will see bigger squats than deadlifts. The equipment just does not help in the deadlift as much as the squat. If you pull sumo style, you can get MUCH more out of your suit though.

I've been lifting raw for the last year, but I'll give you an example what squat and deadlift suits can do. I maxed with a belt before the competition and got a 420 squat and a 475 deadlift @198. At the competition I squatted 625 and sumo deadlifted 600.

This is why I no longer lift with suits.

TheBigness · 12-Nov-04, 05:18 PM

over the summer I was ing around 405 for one and squatting around 425 for 1 so i guess it depends on the individual

Winder · 12-Nov-04, 07:37 PM

FiredUp:

I concur totally with you point about the gear doing little for deadlift. As evidence, you see plenty of people deadlift in a singlet rather than a power suit. Also plenty deadlift without wraps. Hardly ever see such for the squat.

I get almost nothing from a suit in the deadlift but am somwhat appalled by all the assistance in the squat from the suit and wraps. In fact, it seems a liability too have an overly tight suit in deadlift, as it could crunch the shoulders down and inhibit a proper lockout and/or bend the torso forward causing the bar to get out too far in front (great - stiff legging a 3rd attempt).

FiredUp · 19-Nov-04, 07:19 AM

You can get a lot more out of your suit if you deadlift sumo style. Make sure the suit is tight in the hips and somewhat tight over the shoulder. As long as you keep good back position and lean back from start to finish, you can get a LOT out of your suit.

RBjohnson · 24-Nov-04, 02:18 PM

Winder, I completely forgot about limb sizes! Well, I still haven't gotten to maxing out on my dead lift... I need to work on my technique first.

Winder · 24-Nov-04, 11:11 PM

But then again, there is that freakishly strong Gary Heisy at 6'7" who pulled 925. Not only strong, but he had to work a lot more to get it given his height. That's about 75% more travel from floor to lockout than I have at 5'6". I got to see Gary in the audience at my my first national meet.