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12-Sep-07, 11:39 AM
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Smith bar
This may have been asked before but I'm too lazy to go do a search. Didn't know where to best pose my question so I chose this forum.
Does anyone know for sure how much the Smith bar weighs? I asked a trainer at my gym a couple of days ago and he said "nothing". I think he said that in the context that it doesn't weigh much.
I'm guessing 5 lbs.
Thanks in advance for anyone's reply with a sure answer.
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12-Sep-07, 12:48 PM
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It varies from machine to machine.
Some are counter-balanced so the bar effectively weighs nothing (or only a couple of pounds) while others are not and the bar ends up weighing close to 45.
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12-Sep-07, 07:10 PM
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Just dont assume the bar. Only count plates.
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13-Sep-07, 09:48 AM
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It seems a little bizarre to think of you doing anything with a Smith machine...what are you planning?
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13-Sep-07, 11:43 AM
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I did some overhead squats on the Smith machine because I wanted a little more weight than what I felt comfortable with at my gym because I can't drop the weight if I get in a bind.
Did 3 sets. I knew the range of motion would be limited but my training objective for that day was achieved.
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13-Sep-07, 01:27 PM
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Not just the range of motion, but the path of motion would be vastly different. Almost to the point of being a totally different exercise. I think you'll find limited crossover using this technique.
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13-Sep-07, 01:50 PM
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Good points Tim. I don't know I'll be doing alot of overhead squats on the Smith machine. But sometimes we gotta try stuff out to discover things for ourself. Thanks for sharing.
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15-Sep-07, 06:35 AM
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Some brands have the bar weight listed on the unit. Give a look around yours to see if its posted.
How did you shoulders feel while doing that particular exercise? Any pain? Or is your flexibility OK?
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15-Sep-07, 07:55 AM
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i can't even do squats with a regular BB. My shoulder width makes it difficult to hang onto the bar without my shoulders killing me afterward. Thank God my gym has squat bars.
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15-Sep-07, 10:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IronMan
How did you shoulders feel while doing that particular exercise? Any pain? Or is your flexibility OK?
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My shoulders felt good although I had to work with a fixed path which I did not like.
I have been doing alot of shoulder flexibility exercises and my shoulder range of motion has improved greatly. I'm going to keep it up. As a result, the other day I did 3 sets of 8 sets of behind-the-neck wide grip pullups with no problem, something I wouldn't have been able to do in the past.
I don't think I'll do the Smith bar overhead squats anymore.
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17-Sep-07, 10:21 PM
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Usually they're 15-20 pounds, but I've used an older one made of heavier metal that actually weighed 60 pounds by itself.
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18-Sep-07, 12:40 AM
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Weighted the one at the gym, the one there is 8 lbs.
We carried over the scale, put in on a jump box and weighted it.
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18-Sep-07, 12:30 PM
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Thanks! I'm sure the one at my gym is similar to the one at your gym. I guessed 5 lbs. so I was (sort of) close.
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