The PR thread

[luke.w]

no testing at all in our strongman shows,theres no rules for using, you can spot drug-free guys and users.........I've even overheard guys talking about their days jacked all year-round.

So I can't really answer your question about drug-guys feeling slapped for a nondrug user competeing, I could only guess, some might get offended if we wore a "DRUG_FREE" shirt during a meet..........if they do, then they got some problems for sure. I can also tell when I juicer gets beat, hes pretty edgey and shows it.

[Firehawk]

Originally Posted by Maxgain

I am not a self proclaimed steroid guru there are so many with more information than me. I am continuosuly learning and often half alot of questions to ask. However i am qualified and licensed to give out such advice and I do so on this board also but not under my license obviously and will address issues when i am capable.

And yes my mother is extremely proud that her son is a qualified pharmacist.

I'd be proud if you learned proper sentence structure!!!!!!!!!! LOL

Just kidding.

[Maxgain]

Hey part of the job is bad hand writing punctuation and sentence structure i thought that was known

[Dan C]

What, no comment on this part?

Originally Posted by Dan C

I'm not uneducated on the subject, and I know enough to see that many kids who get into taking steroids have been misled into thinking there is a "right way" to take illegal, blackmarket, chemically made hormones, by people such as yourself. The input that is really needed is YOU DON'T NEED IT! Why don't you try preaching that to the choir?

So, being a "qualified pharmacist" (what does that mean anyway?) somehow gives "license" to advise people over the internet about anabolic steroids? Since when did pharmacists start writing prescriptions?

[Dan C]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

Yes i'm sure it feels good when you are a clean lifter beating a gassed lifter. Major handicap.

I know what you mean, but I see it as they're the one's handicapped... using something that enables them to do something they couldn't do on their own.

"Few bulls choose to be steers."
-Kim Wood

[Maxgain]

Originally Posted by Dan C

What, no comment on this part?




So, being a "qualified pharmacist" (what does that mean anyway?) somehow gives "license" to advise people over the internet about anabolic steroids? Since when did pharmacists start writing prescriptions?

Since you seem to be confused
qualified: wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
meeting the proper standards and requirements and training for an office or position or task; "many qualified applicants for the job"
certified: holding appropriate documentation and officially on record as qualified to perform a specified function or practice a specified skill; "a registered pharmacist"; "a registered hospital"

pharmacist www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/dictionary/p.htm
A person trained to prepare and distribute medicines and to give information about them

Next I said i am licensed as a result of my qualification which is explained above but I give advice

Originally Posted by Maxgain

not under my license obviously

-obviously you were too busy looking for an opportunity to criticise-
that i believe people will beneift from and may not already know.

I dont know where prescription writing came into it but if you are interested in the role of a pharmacist in prescribing i would direct you to the NHS website (British) and their implementation of supplementary prescribing

[Maxgain]

Originally Posted by Dan C

What kind of hogwash is that? Fitness is holistic? Please. I'm all about alternative medicine and holistic HEALTH but fitness is pretty simple. Train hard, eat good, rest and repeat.

Thats brilliant no need for this site any more. Discussfitness:Train hard, eat good, rest and repeat, thank you for visiting.

[Maxgain]

Originally Posted by Dan C

It's always funny to hear the self proclaimed steroid guru's accuse me of ignorance because I'm clean and want no parts their drugs in any way, shape or form. I'm not uneducated on the subject, and I know enough to see that many kids who get into taking steroids have been misled into thinking there is a "right way" to take illegal, blackmarket, chemically made hormones, by people such as yourself. The input that is really needed is YOU DON'T NEED IT! Why don't you try preaching that to the choir?

Let me explain to you the different types of prevention primary and secondary are relevant here.
Primary: main objective prevent it from happening great but ideal and hopeful and typically does not work for those with their minds made up

Secondary: then a concept unkown to you is harm minimisation. You obviously dont agree with this notion.
For example here there was a case where morphine tablets were ground out in water and injected. Now maybe if somone had informed these people on the importance of solublity and filtering they would not of blocked veins got gangrene and needed ampuation you see how adice can help.

Maxgain

[Firehawk]

Originally Posted by Dan C

I know what you mean, but I see it as they're the one's handicapped... using something that enables them to do something they couldn't do on their own.

"Few bulls choose to be steers."
-Kim Wood

Well, yeah i guess, depending on the level you are thinking of. The drugs enable them to make gains faster...any natural lifter, with the right amount of time, could achieve quite high numbers...if they have enough time in their life to get it while the getting is good. Unfortunately for natural lifters, the recovery rate is what is limiting.

This is of course, excluding GH .

[luke.w]

Originally Posted by Firehawk

Well, yeah i guess, depending on the level you are thinking of. The drugs enable them to make gains faster...any natural lifter, with the right amount of time, could achieve quite high numbers...if they have enough time in their life to get it while the getting is good. Unfortunately for natural lifters, the recovery rate is what is limiting.
.

the recovery can be unlimiting as possible, only it takes a very unorthadox mind and training regiemin to get there, and it does take longer, I do have a theroy that the older one starts lifting the longer and more success they will achieve in the longer haul. (of course a youger lifter with a good mind, might acheieve more, and it's the good mind thats hard to come by), when you go by what I stated, (a somewhat older lifter, natural) vs the younger/older faster gaining juicer, the juicer is really handicapped no matter what level, the juicers gains become too fast for the body, injury will sustain faster.

[Dan C]

Originally Posted by Maxgain

Let me explain to you the different types of prevention primary and secondary are relevant here.
Primary: main objective prevent it from happening great but ideal and hopeful and typically does not work for those with their minds made up

I hope everyone reading this notices the mentality you are projecting. It's like the main objective is too hard and your mind is already made up that it probably won't work, so let's move on...

Secondary: then a concept unkown to you is harm minimisation. You obviously dont agree with this notion.
For example here there was a case where morphine tablets were ground out in water and injected. Now maybe if somone had informed these people on the importance of solublity and filtering they would not of blocked veins got gangrene and needed ampuation you see how adice can help.

Maxgain

Sorry but I don't coddle fools. And I've delt with my fair share of heroin addicts, more friends of mine have died as a result of that poison than I'd care to recall. You think if I could go back I'd say, "well, at least use a clean needle" or "try to get it from a reputable source"? They're still doing stupid sh|t that needs to stop! You can go around "informing people of the importance of solublity and filtering" while I'm out setting examples of what people can be doing without drugs in their life.

Back on topic now...

Tactical pull-ups (palms out, thumbless grip) - BW 250 x 10

[luke.w]

powerclean and strict overhead press, 180.5lb 6-singles
big PR!, didn't miss any of them, pressed as soon as I caught the powerclean.

front squat lockout (super-yoke) 6-7"ROM 440lbs 2-sets walked 5'ea.

[DaRkAnGel]

Meet Prs:

435 squat, 290 bench, 465 deadlift

I got 470 on the squat and fell forward while racking it lol so that was no good. I weighed in at 201 in the morning (11 lbs less than i weighed 2 days ago) so my bench shirt was really loose and I couldn't even hit 315 which I have done plenty of times. I got 500 for the deadlift as well but I hitched it and the judges called me on it. I will get the videos up soon.

1190 total. Would have had 1300 if the cards had fallen my way.

[Bearbait]

Those are great numbers Dark, keep at it you are doing great. Was the meet IPF?

[DaRkAnGel]

The meet was an APA. One of the side judges though blasted everyone for depth. I think I was the only one that got all whites for my first squat attempt lol.