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08-Jun-08, 10:19 PM
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I am looking at these gas prices, and even the ones you guys say are high, are in fact low compared to how much gas is here in Canada. Only in Europe they pay more for gas, and that's why they have such small cars.
Gas this morning here was $1.35 per litre, which amounts to about $6.75 per gallon.
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09-Jun-08, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Vince
Gas this morning here was $1.35 per litre, which amounts to about $6.75 per gallon.
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Is that in U.S. or Canadian dollars?
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10-Jun-08, 04:16 PM
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I paid $4.53 a gallon yesterday at the same gas station, $0.26 per gallon higher 8 days later. $5.00 per gallon by July 4th is a real possibility. How is that for a firecracker?
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11-Jun-08, 09:39 AM
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I actually don't think high gas prices are all bad. It encourages people to use smaller cars, or get scooters, or even bicycle more. It also encourages investments into alternative energy (which can be produced domestically) and reduces our dependence on politically tenuous nations and governments.
To me, the worst thing about high gas prices is that it drives up prices for everything else, especially food.
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11-Jun-08, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LiftGirl
I agree with you Mr P. People will drive clear across town to save 3 cents a gallon. If you need 20 gallons to fill up, you've saved a total of 60 cents.
People have an obsession with the price of gas.
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I have a client that does that. She doesn't "GET" that it literally (if you break down ALL the variables) that she cannot operate her car for less than 45 cents per mile,....yet she'll drive 15 miles out of her damn way to pay 3 cents less per gallon.
Screw it.
It is what it is, and I'm tired of shopping.
The weirdest thing is, I work in a richie-rich town, and the gas there has consistently been roughly two pennies lower per gallon (at the SERVICE isle) than it is at most self serve in the suburbs. Bizarro eh?
See, I stopped trying to make sense, and get gas where I need to, avoiding high traffic areas like the interstate, and I'm still under $4/gallon so far. (By a penny). But I don't drive out of my way to do it.
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12-Jun-08, 01:39 PM
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come to England and pay $13 a gallon and yr never moan at us or canadian prices lol
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17-Jun-08, 12:54 PM
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in the grand scheme of things is the price of gas really that big a deal? so it costs the average person $5-10 extra per week in gas. I mean, really, so what? I think it is bad that the price keeps going up, but people make too much of a big deal about it. So don't drink a $5 mocha every day lol. American cars are ridiculous anyway, it would be good if people downgraded.
However I recently booked a flight home to ireland and had to pay a whopping $230 'fuel surcharge' bringing my flight cost to over $950. That was somewhat annoying 
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17-Jun-08, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by minime
in the grand scheme of things is the price of gas really that big a deal? so it costs the average person $5-10 extra per week in gas. I mean, really, so what? I think it is bad that the price keeps going up, but people make too much of a big deal about it. So don't drink a $5 mocha every day lol. American cars are ridiculous anyway, it would be good if people downgraded.
However I recently booked a flight home to ireland and had to pay a whopping $230 'fuel surcharge' bringing my flight cost to over $950. That was somewhat annoying 
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minime, I pretty much agree with you. Except that the reason it is a big deal is not for the reason people think it is. They get upset because it costs more to fill up their car.
What's more worrisome is how it drives up the cost of all products, including necessities like food because of transportation costs. This makes it hard for poor people in developing countries to afford food. It doesn't really affect us here; even the poorest Americans don't starve to death. But you have to think of those in poorer countries.
Also, it drives inflation by driving up the price of everything we buy.
Interesting side note, on Paul Harvey yesterday (Ron Chapman is doing his show now) he talked about how gas, bottled water and milk remain some of the cheapest liquids you can buy. He compared it to such things as a gallon of Chanel #5. I can't remember the exact numbers, but you'd be surprised.
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18-Jun-08, 09:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by minime
in the grand scheme of things is the price of gas really that big a deal? so it costs the average person $5-10 extra per week in gas. I mean, really, so what? I think it is bad that the price keeps going up, but people make too much of a big deal about it. So don't drink a $5 mocha every day lol. American cars are ridiculous anyway, it would be good if people downgraded.
However I recently booked a flight home to ireland and had to pay a whopping $230 'fuel surcharge' bringing my flight cost to over $950. That was somewhat annoying 
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For the person who has an 20 mile round trip to work and back every day, its a little more than an extra 5-10 bux.
3 years ago I had no budget for food or gas, I left it open so I could do the things I wanted to. Typically 30 bux would get me back n forth mon-friday to work and then some... Typically 50-100 dollars of groceries a week, and I was eating good expensive processed foods and tons of pop and beer (amazing I never got fat, till I start eating healthy) and eating out all the time...
Now 90 bux to fill my 22 gallon F150 6Cylinder, RWD Vehicle, and that barely makes it through the week, with little to spare, just driving down the street everyday to see my g/f or go to store or gm or whatnot (which or all within a quarter mile of my apt.)
50 bux barely gets me by for the week with food... milk eggs, cheese, bagels, nuts, cheap cheapo cereal, hamburger and fruit... just enough to last for about 3-5 days.
Cost of living has nearly double in 3 years, and my pay had gone from 14.85 - 16.05 in those 3 years... which dont get me wrong, thats good, but hardly good enough to keep up with our inflating economy.
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18-Jun-08, 09:55 PM
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It certainly can be a big deal for some of us, and we don't have to be in a "poor country," but here in the good ole US of A, to be adversely affected. I think it tends to be people with fewer responsibilities (such as, they're not supporting a family,do not have homes and taxes to pay, etc., and yes I know I'm generalizing here) who seem to minimalize this impact.
It's a huge deal. And comparing a gallon of gas to a gallon of perfume is totally unrealistic. An ounce of perfume may last someone a year. An ounce of gasoline,...well, not so much.
My work has totally changed because of gas prices. There are days when I will put on 150 miles round trip. Thankfully not every day of the week. But I find myself not willing to go into work to see "just one person" anymore. It's unfair to that individual and has hurt me, business wise,...but in the long run, it's what I have to do financially. It's a trade off that works for the wallet, not necessarily the reputation of availability as it would appear.
So, it does force me to schedule in a more concentrated way.
I also live in the city and a 10 mile ride can turn into a 45 minute ride with all the lights and traffic (that adds up in gas,..it isn't just the miles you travel but the time you spend in those highway parking lots).
These higher, and rising gas prices are definitely affecting some of us more than others.
In an ideal world, in a perfect world, it'd be nice to only consider the more pleasant rose-coloured vision of how these higher prices are making a better world by forcing people to give up their SUV's and hop on bicycles. For those of us where this isn't possible, we're stuck with that rose-coloured vision clouding our gas-guzzling reality.
For the record, I'm not an SUV fan. I'm not a fan of any gas-guzzling vehicles and my own car is considered pretty good for gas mileage. Regardless, people are not giving their gas hogs up and swapping them out for scooters or compact cars to bring their kids to soccer games in,...at least as far as I can see. Most owners cling tightly to their right to own gas hogs (much like some of us cling to our right to bear arms despite people's protest who think the world would be better without our types).
Add my name to the list of people whose lives have been dramatically affected by gas prices. Yes, when I fill the tank. Yes, even when I only put 20-bucks in and find the gauge right back to its starting point when I get home that day.
Sorry dudes, I'm a grouch about this because yes, it's certainly affected costs in all sorts of areas that are NOT at the gas pump (like flying, groceries, and elevated costs passed on to us because it costs more to ship food to places, or items to places,..it's a landslide). This goes beyond not getting a $5 mocha to negate the gas bill.
Breathe Merrida,....breathe,...nice big breath now,.....(sigh)
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Last edited by Merrida; 18-Jun-08 at 10:02 PM.
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19-Jun-08, 09:20 AM
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Merrida, you need to charge your customers a fuel surcharge just like the airlines are doing.
I'm working at a downtown client's location today and will walk there. I'm planning on doing some lunchtime banking so I'll walk to and from there. Looks like today will be 4 miles plus walking and 0 miles in the car.
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19-Jun-08, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by westside24
For the person who has an 20 mile round trip to work and back every day, its a little more than an extra 5-10 bux.
Now 90 bux to fill my 22 gallon F150 6Cylinder, RWD Vehicle, and that barely makes it through the week, with little to spare, just driving down the street everyday to see my g/f or go to store or gm or whatnot (which or all within a quarter mile of my apt.)
50 bux barely gets me by for the week with food... milk eggs, cheese, bagels, nuts, cheap cheapo cereal, hamburger and fruit... just enough to last for about 3-5 days.
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If your gf and your gym are both within a quarter mile of your apt, you could just walk to those places. You could also purchase a smaller car. I'm not saying you have to do these things; you certainly have a right not to. But if you want to save yourself some gas money, there you go.
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19-Jun-08, 02:49 PM
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Merrida, I'm not intending to minimize the impact, and I realize that it impacts some more than others. But I do think it's a positive aspect that it's causing people to buy smaller cars and bicycle more. Conservation is a good thing!
But just think how lucky you are. By world standards you are rich! You own your own car, you have running water, you have your own place to live, and you have plenty of food. When the price of food goes up here, we all grumble, but at least we get enough of it. Other than cases up abuse or neglect, no one starves to death in America. That's not true in developing countries. I guess that's what I meant by it impacts them, hurts them, more.
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23-Jun-08, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LiftGirl
If your gf and your gym are both within a quarter mile of your apt, you could just walk to those places. You could also purchase a smaller car. I'm not saying you have to do these things; you certainly have a right not to. But if you want to save yourself some gas money, there you go.
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I see what you are saying, but live on your own and take that suggestion... its not practical to spend 20 minutes just to walk to my girlfriends house, and then if we wanna go back to my place we gotta walk back, thats almost n hour out my day, which is already jam packed with responsibilities that need to e taken care of in order to continue living on my own.. some would say, then why are you wasting time on here, but if I didnt then I wouldnt have much success finding homes to look at.
One day my significant other will move in with me (I hope) and it will make things much easier, less stressful, and less lonelier. not so much for her, since she has next to no responsibilities and lives with mommy still...
OK OKK IM DONE! weston is done whinning like a baby 
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24-Jun-08, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by westside24
its not practical to spend 20 minutes just to walk to my girlfriends house, and then if we wanna go back to my place we gotta walk back, thats almost n hour out my day
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Wait, so it takes you 20 minutes to walk a quarter of a mile? Am I reading right?
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