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[Merrida]

Originally Posted by pierini

and post a photo of me performing box jumps in Christmas-colored speedos with little Santa reindeers. The possibilities are endless.

I think I'd go blind. Please don't.

[Merrida]

Originally Posted by Khaine

There is every reason to trust my motives, as I am being completely up front about them... No hidden agenda... No deception... Whether or not you agree with my goals and/or methods is of course another matter entirely... And probably the reason only one of us has a facebook account...

No, actually you said it perfectly. Since we're expressing our opinions, (not judgments of our opinions), you are exactly right. But you see, that is precisely my personal viewpoint, and it just conflicts with your personal viewpoint, yet both are equally valid.

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with people dating several partners, having sex with several partners, piercing their body parts, tie each other up in leather and shackles, or dress in each others' clothing,...it's irrelevent, as it doesn't affect me. Each to their own, and whether you meet someone through Facebook or at a bar, what's the difference. What I do admire is that you are honest with all the women you meet for sex that you are meeting them, and others, for the enjoyment of sex. Again not a problem.

The only place you and I differ is that I would not want to get involved with anyone on Facebook or any other type of computer-related dating/photo/life sharing type thingie, precisely because of the type of people I believe they attract (for that purpose, of dating, sex, interludes, what-have-you).

But you see Khaine, you and I are both working within our own systems that we feel comfortable in. Just because I wouldn't do it, I'm not passing personal judgment on you for doing it (it works for you, fills your needs). You and I have a relationship of exchanging posts on a fitness forum and for our purposes, it suits us. Neither of us are posting here with the agenda of sex.

I post here to exchange fitness ideas, to learn, to share. You post on Facebook to meet people. It's comparing apples and oranges. And people posting clips and pictures on this forum (except for a few who come to mind) I believe are sincere in that they are genuinely looking for critiques and help. But I think you can tell a poster's motive and agenda here by the type of photos they post, their username, the information they choose to share.

I wouldn't discount the mass of genuine sincerity because of a few looking for something else.

Originally Posted by Merrida

Just because I wouldn't do it, I'm not passing personal judgment on you for doing it (it works for you, fills your needs).

That's an honorable public post Merrida that makes me think. When do I state that I am not passing personal judgment on someone but privately harboring such thoughts? That is food for my thought only.

And Merrida, I need to use your recent post as an opportunity to compliment you publicly about your posting prose and writing ability as I have privately harbored such compliments since you returned to DF. I need to sell you to write an article for our e-newletter.

Now tell me that comes natural and it only took you a minute to compose it, not that you were up all last night writing and re-writing it.

[Merrida]

Originally Posted by pierini

Now tell me that comes natural and it only took you a minute to compose it, not that you were up all last night writing and re-writing it.

I've been up since 2am trying to compose a gripping reply,...

[Khaine]

First off, good post...

Love the "all the women you meet for sex", like I run through a volleyball team a week... Which, for clarity, I don't...

Originally Posted by Merrida

I post here to exchange fitness ideas, to learn, to share. You post on Facebook to meet people. It's comparing apples and oranges. And people posting clips and pictures on this forum (except for a few who come to mind) I believe are sincere in that they are genuinely looking for critiques and help. But I think you can tell a poster's motive and agenda here by the type of photos they post, their username, the information they choose to share.

I wouldn't discount the mass of genuine sincerity because of a few looking for something else.

Right, I just tend to think the ratio leans the other way... I see more search for validation, more vanity, more ego-boosting, than I see honest attempt at discourse and selfless, helpful feedback... There are all these, of course, but that would also be the case with a site such as facebook...

I'm not really trying to make a comparison between the two, but I do believe people aren't all that different, and this is reflected in any society we create, online or otherwise...

Or maybe I'm just a cynic / scorned romantic / general bastard type...

[Merrida]

Khaine,----By "all" I just mean "all the women you've met through Facebook for this purpose." "All" doesn't come with any pre-determined number. "All" does not have to refer to a volleyball team,...just "however many women you've met for this reason." That's all, no tally. ("All" = whatever the total is of the number of women you've met personally for this,..that's it, that's all, nothing more intended).

As for why we may see different ratios of what people "seem" to look for on this DF forum -- you and I may have based our positions, in part, on the particular threads we find ourselves drawn to. I think I generally avoid getting too involved in posts where I feel people are posting comments or photographs for ego boosts & attention, though sometimes it happens. I get my enjoyment from learning, helping, and engaging in healthy debates.

I agree with you that when it comes to the internet, the options are virtually limitless for those seeking attention or who want to showboat. And again,...if they're getting their needs met and are being up front,....then so be it. Those seeking the same will be drawn to those presenting the same. Just like Facebook, just many forums or chat rooms.

Maybe we find what we're looking for. Maybe we find what we're receptive to permitting into our lives. Maybe we ignore or discount those things (from whatever source) where we feel we cannot contribute, or where we do not find our interests peaked.

It's not complicated, just open to different interpretations and observations.

[Khaine]

Originally Posted by Merrida

Khaine,----By "all" I just mean "all the women you've met through Facebook for this purpose." "All" doesn't come with any pre-determined number. "All" does not have to refer to a volleyball team,...just "however many women you've met for this reason." That's all, no tally. ("All" = whatever the total is of the number of women you've met personally for this,..that's it, that's all, nothing more intended).

It was a joke hon, not an accusation, nor was I insulted...

Should I start using smileys more...? :

I look at many threads... I post in very few... My observations are just that, and they are not based on the PP forum alone... I'd like nothing better than engage in intelligent, stimulating, exploratory discussion on this board... I just find that occurences of such are few... Instead, I see the things mentioned above... My superiority complex is no doubt a culprit in this though...

[Merrida]

Thanks Khaine, for the clarification, and to know you knew me well enough, my posts well enough, my intentions and probably my history played a wee bit in knowing rare is the occasion I get my fangs out, sink my teeth into posts, or claw at them with what may be construed as "attacks."

That's the ever-complex drawback of trying to infer motivation behind the written word that is the process of posting. Those inflections are lost and open to interpretation.

Example: Reading your line about the "PP forum,"....a quick read, and my mind came up with all sorts of potential meanings of a "PP forum," -- none of which carry with them very alluring imagery. (Reminder to self: Read carefully before letting the mind wander).

Thanks for knowing me (or of me) well enough to know my intent.

It's all good.

So,......................no volleyball team yet eh? Is it on your "To Do" list?

[Khaine]

Originally Posted by Merrida

Example: Reading your line about the "PP forum,"....a quick read, and my mind came up with all sorts of potential meanings of a "PP forum," -- none of which carry with them very alluring imagery. (Reminder to self: Read carefully before letting the mind wander).

Thanks for knowing me (or of me) well enough to know my intent.

It's all good.

So,......................no volleyball team yet eh? Is it on your "To Do" list?

ahahaha I actually contemplated on making a side note in the vein of "not watersports", but I figured it would probably be counterproductive and more likely lure forth the unappealing imagery... Now, picture stimulating and exploratory discourse in that forum...

No, no volleyball team... I'm too short anyway... I'd develop all kinds of issues...

[ajarvis]

you know you see that alot on facebook - people looking for sex - and I just dont get it. Wouldn't it be better to look in real life instead of online where you have no idea who you're meeting, and whether they are what, and who they say they are?

[Maxgain]

Originally Posted by ajarvis

you know you see that alot on facebook - people looking for sex - and I just dont get it. Wouldn't it be better to look in real life instead of online where you have no idea who you're meeting, and whether they are what, and who they say they are?

I dont know about Facebook from the success I have heard from people on myspace looking for that kind of thing it seems way easier way less effort.

[Khaine]

Originally Posted by ajarvis

you know you see that alot on facebook - people looking for sex - and I just dont get it. Wouldn't it be better to look in real life instead of online where you have no idea who you're meeting, and whether they are what, and who they say they are?

Well, you can't say that there are any guarantees simply because you meet someone in 'real life'... There are all kinds of pretence permeating any social situation... People reveal new sides of themselves the closer they get to a comfort zone...

Also, in my experience, you make a night of it... Meet somewhere, go out, have a good time, and eventually, if the good feeling persists, 'dance'... It's much like meeting people anywhere else, except the purpose is clear from the beginning and there is less need for games and deceit... Quite liberating really...

I don't know how people who've never been there picture it going down, but I'm fairly certain their images are quite removed from the reality of it...

[Merrida]

Originally Posted by Khaine

ahahaha I actually contemplated on making a side note in the vein of "not watersports", but I figured it would probably be counterproductive and more likely lure forth the unappealing imagery... Now, picture stimulating and exploratory discourse in that forum...

No, no volleyball team... I'm too short anyway... I'd develop all kinds of issues...

Yeah, watersports was actually where my mind headed. (I saw pierini briefly while my head was in the gutter). It would have made for an interesting sub-topic from which we could expand into a barrage of unique dialogue though. It may be a bit much though, as you said. We may get in trouble. Thank you Khaine for picking up on that.

[Merrida]

Originally Posted by Khaine

I don't know how people who've never been there picture it going down, but I'm fairly certain their images are quite removed from the reality of it...

Well I've always pictured something lewd and kinky, so I'm probably all sorted out in that department.

[.V.]

Originally Posted by Merrida

Well I've always pictured something lewd and kinky

It's only kinky the first time.