6- Oxo

[GymRat18]

LoL ok guys I'm going to play the role of everyone else's attitudes....

ok gooseneck where is your factual information to prove that 6 OXO is not strong enough for PCT, information please would be nice. Also what information are you looking at that says if someone doesn't use something other than 6OXO (which by the way is recommended, by just looking at posts, by many members and moderators as a PCT for prohormones/prosteroids) that they are not and not knowledgeable about taking M1T?

give me a break lol who are you trying to be the Mr. Know it all on D&F, I mean you act like you've done research on this for 30 yrs. or something...

Also where the hell are you getting factual research information that otherwise isn't posted on some website that has some kind of personal interest in M1T? It definitly isn't fair to bust him out as a uninformed user who hasn't done his research. I'd just like to see for myself all this research you guys are boasting you have seen about all this factual information your talking about....

[trHawT]

6oxo worked VERY well at bringing my test levels back to normal after running a 4-week cycle of 1AD/4AD. Personally, you'll see better results with real gear. You'll probably spend about the same money.

[Gooseneck]

Gymrat, I do not claim to know-it-all, I'm giving you my first hand experience. I've done one M1T cycle with 6 OXO at the end and had a heck of a time getting myself jumpstarted. My second cycle I used Nolva and my boys were full size and pumping within a week or two. 6 OXO works, but not as good as other means, and when you're talking recovery, every day counts.

M1T is a steroid. It is 1-Testosterone in a methylated form for max absorbtion and liver bypass. Steroids require stronger PCT than 6OXO. If you're using 1AD or something like that, then its fine. I dont have the time to go and find all the "countless" links of info about my posts just to prove to someone on the interent that I'm a know-it-all. Find out forself and if you're so inclined to take these risks and gamble with gains, go for it, its not my body.

L8.

[pmcgough]

i dont have a prescription for nolvadex though, thats the problem...where the hell can i get it without the prescription for a decent price

[dsade]

HPTA shutdown is HPTA shutdown is HPTA shutdown

To claim that steroids require stronger PCT than 1-AD/4-AD is ridiculous. Either way you are shut down.

6-oxo is a suicide aromatase inhibitor, and stops the conversion of testosterone to estrogen. When you quit administering exogenous androgens and you start producing testosterone again, that aromatase is very likely to convert a large amount of it to estrogen.

While the dosage of 6-oxo required is pretty high (600mg per day at the beginning of PCT), and compared to Nolva, a bit more expensive, it is simply a legal alternative for those unwilling to use Nolva illegally.

As far as we know, 6-OXO is going to survive the PH ban.

[pmcgough]

i know i could get nolva illegally, but i dont know where.........and how long should i take 600 mg of 6 oxo during PCT...should i do 1 week at 600 and then another at 300 or what?

[dsade]

How long was your cycle?

I usually run PCT for 3-4 weeks, 600 week 1, then drop down 400 for a week or two, then 300 for a week.

[pmcgough]

im doing M1T for 2 weeks, so should i do 600, 400, 300?

[Gooseneck]

Do what you feel you have to do.

[pmcgough]

thats very helpful.........

[jgriffith]

I think goose is saying that because there is really no getting to you. At first you started this thread saying you wanted to do 6-OXO as a testosterone booster, and a stand alone, and now you're saying you're gonna do M1T which can carry some pretty nasty side effects if abused. What are your stats man? Are you sure you're ready at this stage of your muscular development to make full use of it? or is it just going to be a waste? I'm not gonna sit here and tell you not to do it, because these things work, and will make you bigger and stronger, I'm not your dad, but after reading this post from beginning to end, I just not sure you know what you're getting into.

On a side note, i think thatd be plenty for only a 2 week cycle, what is the point of that by the way? How many mg a day? I think you'd need a ridiculous dose to see anything real. Lethargy, shrinkage, and some muscle aches are all side effects that you're going to have to think about.

[Gooseneck]

Go over to AnabolicMinds.com and see what they think about your 6 OXO claim. Like I said before, different anabolics have different half lives and detection times. This means that your body "can" be shut down at different levels. Pro-hormones cause some shut down, but nothing like M1T, Deca, Test cycles, etc. This is why it is preached that one should use Nolva, Clomid, or both. I'm trying to help out here and you guys think I'm blowing hot air around. I could really care less what you do because either way you'll learn only by trial and error. Good luck to you.

[gym rat]

Originally Posted by Gooseneck

Go over to AnabolicMinds.com and see what they think about your 6 OXO claim. Like I said before, different anabolics have different half lives and detection times. This means that your body "can" be shut down at different levels. Pro-hormones cause some shut down, but nothing like M1T, Deca, Test cycles, etc. This is why it is preached that one should use Nolva, Clomid, or both. I'm trying to help out here and you guys think I'm blowing hot air around. I could really care less what you do because either way you'll learn only by trial and error. Good luck to you.

Gooseneck, great post! M1T will shut you right down, if you don't stack it right and do a proper PCT. Nolva is a must in my opinion for M1T, Clomid could also be used but I always hear people have better results with Nolva. But ya man, Goose is just trying to help you out here and provide you some good info. You should really listen to what he has to say.

[jgriffith]

eh screw it, bitch tits are sexy...

[gym rat]

Originally Posted by jgriffith

eh screw it, bitch tits are sexy...

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