Ab-solved or Lipoderm-y?

[kronik]

For those of you have used Lipoderm-Y, how would you recomend using it? Would you wait a while before doping cardio after applying the Lipoderm? Or would it be best to put on after excercising?

[dsade]

Originally Posted by kronik

For those of you have used Lipoderm-Y, how would you recomend using it? Would you wait a while before doping cardio after applying the Lipoderm? Or would it be best to put on after excercising?

Lipoderm, and topicals in general, are not really tied to cardio timewise; They are inherently time-released. The nature of the product is to achieve a steady diffusion of the product through the skin, so that you get a steady feed of active ingredients through the skin and into the targeted tissues.

Other than avoiding heavy sweating or showering for about 45 minutes after application, then it doesn't matter as much when you apply.

[kronik]

Originally Posted by dsade

Lipoderm, and topicals in general, are not really tied to cardio timewise; They are inherently time-released. The nature of the product is to achieve a steady diffusion of the product through the skin, so that you get a steady feed of active ingredients through the skin and into the targeted tissues.

Other than avoiding heavy sweating or showering for about 45 minutes after application, then it doesn't matter as much when you apply.

Thanks for the responce.

Have you used Lipoderm Y? If you did, out of interest how many times a day did you use it? Just the once? Or every 12 hours?

[DustinLati]

So wait a minute.....if I have overall a lower bodyfat %, but I have recently acquired a large amount of fat around my abdominal area (due to high calorie bulking diet and no cardio), which would I want to use....ab-solved?

[dsade]

Originally Posted by kronik

Thanks for the responce.

Have you used Lipoderm Y? If you did, out of interest how many times a day did you use it? Just the once? Or every 12 hours?

No problem :-)

The active life of yohimbine in the body is not long at all, and once the steady stream falls off, then the a2 receptors begin shutting off/deactivating the lipolytic effect of nor-epinephrine. Ideally, what you want is a constant feed of yohimbine into the trouble areas, to antagonize those a2 receptors and let the nor-epinephrine do its thing. The best way to do this is to apply twice a day, 12 hours apart.

[dsade]

Originally Posted by DustinLati

So wait a minute.....if I have overall a lower bodyfat %, but I have recently acquired a large amount of fat around my abdominal area (due to high calorie bulking diet and no cardio), which would I want to use....ab-solved?

How low is a lower bodyfat level?

Basically, the difference between the two is that Lipoderm and Lipoderm Ultra are most effective at getting rid of subcutaneous fat - the fatty deposits right in between the skin and the muscle - and at lower (sub 12%) bodyfat levels.

Absolved helps eliminate the Visceral Adipose Tissue, which accumulates UNDER the muscle and around the organs - causing a larger diameter waist, fat accumulation on the abdominal area, and a protruding "belly".

I would probably wait until you are a few weeks into your cutting phase so that you are better able to judge your problem and decide then.

[Cort]

Little confused...too poor to buy this stuff just yet, but I am down to about 10-12% bf was 10 last time I had it checked...my abs show good in good lighting, bad in bad lighting, would this stuff help? Got kinda a 5/6 pack thingy goin right now...

[dsade]

Originally Posted by Cort

Little confused...too poor to buy this stuff just yet, but I am down to about 10-12% bf was 10 last time I had it checked...my abs show good in good lighting, bad in bad lighting, would this stuff help? Got kinda a 5/6 pack thingy goin right now...

I would say your situation is a good example where Lipoderm or Lipoderm Ultra will work well on the abs. It will help you target the last little bit of stubborn fatty deposit that is obscuring your definition.

[Lady C]

I'm a bit confused. So Absolve will spot reduce? Do I still have to watch my diet and exercise? If this is true, I can see someone thinking this is the miracle gel.

Ironman, just curious, how old is your daughter and what kind of bodyfat percentage? What is her goal or target? Is she more pear shaped?

Lady C, my daughter has never had her BF measured, so I really can't answer that question. As for her body shape, hour glass would be an apt description. Not the typical "straight line" fitness model type. She has been described as "hot" by my much younger workout partners. Awful tough for a father to describe a child in such terms. *sigh*

And diet and exercise are still necessary components for use with Ab-solved. No such thing as a "miracle cream" yet, lol.

[Lady C]

Thanks, Iron. But I'm still skeptical. It sounds too much like a miracle gel sold on an infomercial.

I've used it, my daughter has used it. On us, it worked. One thing that may help to differentiate between this post and an infomercial Lady C, there is nothing for me to gain by backing the product. Protein, creatine, ephedrine, and now 7 keto-dhea in a transdermal carrier have all proven their worth. I will recommend any one of them with a clear conscience

7-oxo-DHEA and Raynaud's phenomenon Ihler G, Chami-Stemmann H. Department of Medical Biochemistry and Medical Genetics, Texas A&M College of Medicine.

"We suggest that an ergogenic (thermogenic) steroid, 7-oxo-DHEA (3-acetoxyandrost-5-ene-7,17-dione), which is available without prescription as the trademarked 7-keto DHEA, may be very helpful in prevention of primary Raynaud's attacks by increasing the basal metabolic rate and inhibiting vasospasm."

Relationship of dehydroepiandrosterone and its 7-hydroxylated metabolites to thyroid parameters and sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) in healthy subjects Hampl R, Hill M, Bilek R, Starka L. Institute of Endocrinology, Prague, Czech Republic.

"Thyroid hormones are known to possess thermogenic properties, as does another 7-oxygenated DHEA metabolite, 7-oxo-DHEA,"


7 oxo is a known thermogenic agent, regardless if taken orally or by transdermal application. Science is backing up this product.

[kronik]

Originally Posted by dsade

No problem :-)

The active life of yohimbine in the body is not long at all, and once the steady stream falls off, then the a2 receptors begin shutting off/deactivating the lipolytic effect of nor-epinephrine. Ideally, what you want is a constant feed of yohimbine into the trouble areas, to antagonize those a2 receptors and let the nor-epinephrine do its thing. The best way to do this is to apply twice a day, 12 hours apart.

I see, so it is recommended that the Lipoderm even be used on days when I dont do any cardio or weight training (the rest day)? So I continue to get a feed of Yohimbine.

[dsade]

Excellent response, IronMan

To avoid falling for scam products, critical thinking skills need to be employed. We do our best to fully explain HOW and WHY each of our products work, and reply to any criticism using reason - not marketing hype.

I like the fact that people are skeptical, as long as it is a healthy skepticism. You should doubt vague, blanket claims with no backing...and it then puts the burden onto the company making the claims to explain why it does or doesn't work.

Any opportunity to share/increase knowledge is time well-spent, as far as I am concerned.


Kronik: correct