Ab-solved or Lipoderm-y?

[jam_am]

hey guys will you ever be distributing your products like absolved to australia? i wish yous would ripping gel doesnt even exist here and i dont get why! :confused:

[dsade]

Originally Posted by jam_am

hey guys will you ever be distributing your products like absolved to australia? i wish yous would ripping gel doesnt even exist here and i dont get why! :confused:

It's because Australia has ridiculous laws for nutritional supplements. Pretty much what our congressman want to impose on us.

Once in a while we get individual orders for Australia - but they are hit and miss if they make it through (absolved and lipoderm only).

We are looking at a new formulation of both for those that live in "Nazi-like" countries, that will be import safe.

[kronik]

Yea I tried importing some Ab-solved from the USA to the UK about a year ago and it didnt make it past customs. I dont see the problems. But Avant Labs have a UK website up which I emailed (as they dont sell online) and they'd sort me out with any product I wanted. Although I fear the price maybe rather high!

Dsade may I ask whats in Lipoderm/Ab-solved which means us foreigns countries wont let them in?

[dsade]

Absolved = 7-oxo DHEA

Lipoderm = Yohimbine

Some countries' import laws=retarded

[jam_am]

You're kidding? will i get my money back if it doesnt get through? i just ordered a bottle ARG! wtf is this its not like its ephedrine or steroids !! this is bloody pathetic

[dsade]

Originally Posted by jam_am

You're kidding? will i get my money back if it doesnt get through? i just ordered a bottle ARG! wtf is this its not like its ephedrine or steroids !! this is bloody pathetic

Well, technically it is the buyer's responsibility to check their laws to make sure the products are allowed.

If the product gets rejected (and returned to us), then you will get a refund (minus shipping). But sometimes they just seize it and either destroy it, or a dishonest official will take it. In that case, no.

It just goes to show you that the American Revolution is neither ONLY American, nor did it ever end. Tyranny is everywhere threatening your unalienable rights - fight against it every chance you get.

[IntheGame]

I did some reading on the various threads on ab-solved, and if the guys at Avant are snake oil salesman (as some would contend)...then in my opinion, they're very good ones.

I must admit that I'm very intrigued by the product described. HOWEVER, in some of the posts it mentions a price point of approx $20-$25, but I haven't found this to be true. I went to the Avant website and it's listed for $45.00. I'm no Economics whiz, and am familiar w/the laws governing supply and demand...but double the price of what people have recently paid seems excessive.

I'm interested in giving this a shot, but not interested to the tune of $50+ for 4 oz.

Is the higher cost due to buying directly from Avant? Is the product available on an unaffiliated site for less?

[dsade]

Thanks for the compliments/confidence - we always let the science speak for the products (alas, you wont be seeing Ab-Tech with before and after pics).

www.1fast400.com has the best price for Absolved - anywhere from $20-$25

[ulter]

If you want a better product than either of the Avant products you should get Yohimburn ES, and that is already IN the UK so you don't have to worry about customs. That goes for anywhere in the EU. Yohimburn ES has been a top seller in the UK for the past 3 years, it's guaranteed, and shipped by Yohimburn in the UK.

[dsade]

I wondered how long it would take for Ulter-Spam to show up.

Are you planning on ignoring the multiple times Par has bitch-smacked you in an argument over the efficacy of the products here too, or is there some magical new evidence (not coming from your rectum)that yohimburn is "better".

I notice you conveniently ducked out of the discussion on BB.com, ignoring several key questions.

EDIT: And how much more expensive is Yohimburm? Twice as much? 3 times as much?

[ulter]

Excuse me sir. You have posted over 100 times on this board about the Avant products you sell. I have one post and you're calling ME a spammer?
Our company pays to be on this board. You on the other hand are freeloading here.

Your product's cost reflects it's usefulness. Yohimburn outsells it on 5 continents with no advertising whatsoever. Only by word of mouth has it become as big as it is. As the saying goes, you get what you pay for.

You're asking these people to smuggle your product into thier country and you'll cover it if they get caught. Now who is dishonest here?

[kronik]

Why is Yohimburn so expensive ulter? Its like £70 ($100 approx) for one bottle.

[dsade]

Excuse me, sir...the thread was asking about Lipoderm and Absolved, and you came into it to spam your product.

We have been trying for months to add board sponsorship, with no reply from the owner - so do not make insulting comments.

Nobody offered to cover smuggling losses at all - I am not sure where you are getting that misinformation. I resent your implication.

Your arguments are the same tired arguments over and over, and have been addressed dozens of times (right about the time you disappear from said threads).

By your logic, Muscletech must be the best thing since sliced bread.

We do not "edit out" any negative reviews of our products, nor do we "ban people" for mentioning competition, unlike the supporters of Yohimburn.

Do you plan on addressing my questions about how your delivery vehicle keeps some ingredients localized, yet magically transports others systemically to magically suppress appetite (which occurs in the brain)?

[ulter]

Originally Posted by kronik

Why is Yohimburn so expensive ulter? Its like £70 ($100 approx) for one bottle.

The price includes the shipping to the UK, VAT, and all duties, and it's not $100 it's only $79.

Dsade My logic is simple and does not reflect Muscletech's approach at all. They buy 20 pages of ads in the muscle magazine's every month. Yohimburn buys none. It is only sold by trainers and gyms in Europe who want to sell their clients the best products available. I don't see how you can liken that to Muscletech. But go ahead.

[dsade]

The fundamental of your argument is quite the same.

Question: Explain scientifically why Yohimburn is superior.

Your answer: Well, we sell more.

Stunning logic, Ulter.