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Old 24-Dec-03, 03:44 AM   #1
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Anavar only cycle


Hi there;
Has anyone tried an anavar only cycle? what were the results?

stats 6 foot 7 @ 255lbs @ 16% bf, 18" biceps, 28.5" thighs
I`ve been training for about 5 years but never used steroids. Right now i`m on bulking phase till march and i want to cut for next summer (7%-9% bf) without losing a lot of muscle . Will anavar help me maintain lbm or better still increase it if combined with a good diet/cardio/training/glutamine/eca ?
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Old 24-Dec-03, 07:05 AM   #2
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Var is by far one of the best drugs out there today. My pet horse did a 12 week cycle and the results were, well I can tell you his strength went through the roof, literally you feel like you can lift anything Which is good for motivation. It's not one to pack on massive amounts of size but if you use it for long enough then it'll help there a little, my horse gained 15lbs in 12 weeks, and believe me that isn't much for a steroid cycle but those gains stick with you unlike some cycles... You'll keep 75% of your strength gains you earn, and with that strength the size will fly on hehe... but yeah it's very anabolic, you'd be hard pushed to lose any muscle mass whilst on cycle... and of course it doesn't aromatise at any dose so your all good to go except the price. My horse used 70mg/day.

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Old 24-Dec-03, 11:24 AM   #3
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Var is a good option, it is safe and effective but it's only downside is the price. Your diet is the key to maintaining LBM while trying to lose bodyfat, as long as your diet is in check then Var will certainly help you along the way.

I think if you are looking to shed 7-9% bodyfat with no muscle loss then I think you should look into a full-blown cutting cycle. I would look into the following substances: Test Propoinate, Stanazol (Winny depot), Primobolan, Trenbolone, Clenbuterol, ECA, T3.

Of course some people advocate smaller dosages (250mg p/week) of Test Cyp or Enan and sometimes Sust.

It doesn't really matter what gear you use, because results are all in the diet. But I think you should re-evaluate your goals........losing 9%bf while keeping LBM will be VERY hard but losing 9%bf while gaining lbm will be damn near impossible, whatever the case you will need a lot more gear than a Anavar-only cycle to achieve your goals.

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Old 26-Dec-03, 09:19 AM   #4
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My pet horse did a 12 week cycle and the results were, well I can tell you his strength went through the roof, literally you feel like you can lift anything ... You'll keep 75% of your strength gains you earn, and with that strength the size will fly on hehe...

....My horse used 70mg/day.
Pet horse....???

So, ummm, Lee- how much is your "pet horse" deadlifting these days...??? I remember the pics you posted of your "horse" DL'ing about 300#.....

Is he over 405# for reps yet??? :thumbup:

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Old 26-Dec-03, 01:25 PM   #5
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Heh.... well I'm not sure where he'll be when he gets back into the gym after the car accident, but 2 months back he was well over 405 for reps I'd never post his lift stats on here b/c of the possible abuse that he doesn't need, but would be happy to chat about them in PM . I might take some gym shots of him when he's back up and running, at least they could act as proof
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Old 26-Dec-03, 07:01 PM   #6
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var is a waste of cash in my opinion... too little results for too much money.. i guess if your paranoid about sides and are rich maybe its the roid for you.. then again ive never tried it myself so maybe i shouldnt knock it, just seems like a pretty weak steroid for what your paying for, i couldnt justify paying for var when i could get things like halo/test/dbol for less $
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Old 26-Dec-03, 07:29 PM   #7
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ive never tried it myself so maybe i shouldnt knock it
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thanks for the input guys

you can see my pics in the before/after pics forum

thanks, as you can see i`m 100% natural
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Old 27-Dec-03, 11:46 AM   #9
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daspaceman, after looking at your pictures I'd say your at a good stage to try a cycle, you could still get a lot bigger naturally but you've built a real good base... something which would stand you in good stead on cycle. Your back is crazy man... nice shape!
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HI, Lee j b , i`ll try to get bigger naturally then maybe i`ll consider roids later. The problem for me is not gaining mass but cutting and still keep mass, when i diet i tend to lose a lot of mass, maybe i was dieting wrong, this time i`ll try to up my ptotein to 300 and down my carbs to 200 - 250 maybe it will help, eheh anavar would really help, but i prefare being fatter then losing hair ,acne, gyno etc. i`m steroid paranoid maybe i`m too paranoid lol cuz anavar is relatively safe as they say ,
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Old 28-Dec-03, 04:46 AM   #11
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Yeah you wont't be getting any of that on anavar, especially on your first cycle with the dosage being so low.

Good luck with the dieting, just shout if you need any help.
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10x for your support LEE, I`ll be starting my diet in feb/march, I will surely need your help :P
Is primobolan tabs better than anavar for cutting ? and what about winstrol new 50mg tabs?
Will i need to do post cycle teraphy with any of them or anything else?
btw i`m 27years old
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Old 28-Dec-03, 05:49 AM   #13
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10x for your support LEE, I`ll be starting my diet in feb/march, I will surely need your help :P
Is primobolan tabs better than anavar for cutting ? and what about winstrol new 50mg tabs?
Will i need to do post cycle teraphy with any of them or anything else?
btw i`m 27years old
legit primo tabs would be almost impossible to get your hands on, even injectable primo is fairly hard to get now.. i found winny to be pretty effective i think mostly cause i used it when i was at a pretty low bodyfat but if your worried about losing hair winny might not be for you, you need pct for any aas
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Old 28-Dec-03, 07:31 AM   #14
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BUMP to what Zed said, legit Primo is VERY hard to find.

If you're gonna run an oral-only cycle then remember your liver protectors.

Personally I don't see why you don't go all-out and run something like a Test Prop/Winny or a low dose Test cycle and take advantage of first-cycle gains. If it's side-effects you're worried about then simply lower the dosage.

A lot of newbie juicers mess about with orals for their first go because they're afraid of jabbing, but in reality however good your diet and PCT gains from oral only cycles are easily lost.

Sticking yourself is no big deal bro, I'm sure you've been in more pain stubbing your toe.

Just my opinion bro but I think you should take real advantage of your first cycle.

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Old 28-Dec-03, 12:11 PM   #15
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Primo tabs are not manufactured anywhere anymore except for one place called shrieg labs in turkey.... but only a handful of people in the world can deal you the legit ones and most of them charge a killing, trust me. You wont be losing any hair with stanabol (winny), infact it's a relatively low androgrenic steroid, no water rentention and it won't aromatise at any dose which means no estrogen. If you can get the injectable vetenarian form you'd be better because winny is slightly more toxic to the liver than the var, so I wouldn't take them both at the same time (orally), inject one and gulp the other . Injectable primo like has been said is hard to find nowdays, but if you look hard enough it's just around the corner . About the winstrol tabs, can you tell me the manufacturer because some of the lab results on the 50's have been low, I know that BD 50's are good to go though, they're yellow with a score on the front and B D on each side with 50 on the back of the tab.
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