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View Poll Results: Which supplements work best to maintain muscle while losing fat?
Caffine 1 5.88%
ECA stack (Ephedra, caffine, aspirin) 5 29.41%
Green Tea or its extract 2 11.76%
ALA (alpha lipoic acid) 1 5.88%
Yohimbe (oral) 0 0%
Other - Please state 4 23.53%
None of the above 4 23.53%
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Old 21-Mar-06, 02:36 PM   #16
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Wise guy! lol

And the potential for people dropping dead from DNP compared to ephedra? Well, I guess we shouldn't go there.......
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Old 21-Mar-06, 03:28 PM   #17
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Dnp?
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Old 21-Mar-06, 04:06 PM   #18
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DNP was originally made as a replacement detenating compound in TNT. When used in humans, however, DNP will raise body tempeture by interfering with mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylation. The way that this is accomplished in the body is that DNP diverts fatty acids away from ATP production and throws them off as heat instead. Aspirin, clenbuterol, and ephedrine all do the same thing but to a much lower extent.

With even a low dosage, in the area of 3-5 mg/kg of bodyweight a day, it will rate your metabolic rate 30%. If this dosage is continued daily, it will raise your metabolism by 50%. At this rate you can burn about 1 lb. of fat a day. This product is very dangerous to use though. An overdose of only 4 times the recommended one will kill you. As far as this product raising your body tempeture, it can raise it indefinitely as well. You can die or suffer brain damage after your body tempeture goes over 104 degrees. DNP can raise your tempeture much higher than that as well. If brain damage and death are not bad enough side effects to you, you can also suffer irreversible liver damage and/or kidney damage as well without even an overdose while using this product if you stay on it for too long.
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Old 21-Mar-06, 04:07 PM   #19
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For strict interpretation of the poll (maintain muscle while losing fat), I gotta say AAS would be the best.

And as far as boosting metabolism, there's no doubt DNP takes the cake.

Too bad both are illegal.
If we go there i think some GH will allow me to shed that fat while maintaining muscle may even continue to bulk and still watch that sc fat fall off
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Old 21-Mar-06, 04:25 PM   #20
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Now we're cookin'. It would have went better after the bit on DNP.
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Old 21-Mar-06, 04:56 PM   #21
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Cooking in the literal sense if i use DNP
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Old 21-Mar-06, 07:54 PM   #22
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Yea, that's what I meant
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Old 21-Mar-06, 10:06 PM   #23
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That is very sensitive but tolerance develops quickly with long term use for a lot. I take very lttle stimulants and 100mgs of caffeine in the morning can keep me up at night 12 hours later.
I used to pop caffeine before wrestling matches and sleep like a baby 2-3 hrs later.

I think its from drinking tea my entire life. Sort of a cultural thing (being from uzbekistan).
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Old 25-Mar-06, 09:00 AM   #24
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Old 28-Mar-06, 01:51 PM   #25
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Well went for the ephedra -until the DNP and GH arrive of course- anyway what a disappointmentcan sleep after taking 2 tablets. This is from someone who takeslittle supplemetns and can feel effects of caffeine 10hrs later swear ephedra did zilch.
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