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Old 20-Jan-03, 04:58 AM   #1
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Clen!!!


whats the proper dosage and cycle for cutting with clenbuterol?
hope someone knows this,but EXACT AND TRUE!!!
i wanna lose some 20 pounds of fat. i'm 210 pounds with about 11% bodyfat...
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Old 20-Jan-03, 07:22 AM   #2
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Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets. Doses are very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere in the range of 5-8 tablets per day for men and 1-4 tablets a day for women is most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after 6-8 weeks when body temperature drops back to normal. It's anabolic/anti-catabolic properties fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine can be used in the off weeks.


Common Uses

Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.

Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness, vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen.

Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be used by non AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.

Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, Carbs must be included in the diet. Keto diet do not work well in this case.

Precautions: Is Clen for you?

The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although some people find ECA stacks harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation before a workout for an extra kick, although its diuretic effects may shift electrolyte balance. Drink more water if you use Caffeine.

What else do I need to know?

Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within the first 3-4 days of use.

A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day.

Example of a first cycle:

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to normal gradually)
Day14: 60mcg
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

Example of a second cycle:

Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100mcg
Day14: 80mcg
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water: 1.5-2 gallons a day.

All brands are not equal when it comes to Clen, different brands will yield different results.



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Old 20-Jan-03, 06:48 PM   #3
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Here's some better help. Clen = suck. You will not lose a ton of fat like you think. Go with proper diet and ECA.
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Old 20-Jan-03, 07:08 PM   #4
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Here's some better help. Clen = suck. You will not lose a ton of fat like you think. Go with proper diet and ECA.
Bump, its highly over-rated.
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Old 20-Jan-03, 09:51 PM   #5
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Any of you guys ever tried it?

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Old 21-Jan-03, 09:16 AM   #6
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Yes, as well as 4 other people I know. I equate it to a prohormone...all the sides, none of the goods.

If you want to cut using drugs, the way to do it is with a nice test base and possibly an ancillary. Test/winny or test/fina are two I'd say should work quite well.
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Old 21-Jan-03, 06:47 PM   #7
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test/d-bol sostenon/winny v..
sostenon and reforvit-b
clenbuteral. never tried it or even know anyone who has.
so there is one yes and one no?:confused:
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Old 21-Jan-03, 10:29 PM   #8
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Winstrol + Clenbuterol + Primobolan = SHREDS. Fact.
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Old 21-Jan-03, 10:55 PM   #9
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Winstrol + Clenbuterol + Primobolan = SHREDS. Fact.

If you can't find Clen, go for ECA.

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Old 22-Jan-03, 08:32 AM   #10
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Winstrol + Clenbuterol + Primobolan = SHREDS. Fact.
I'm not even going to get started on this post.


I'll leave you with one thought: Diet = SHREDS. Fact.

Heresay is a dangerous weapon.
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Old 23-Jan-03, 12:47 AM   #11
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...experience is another.
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