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19-Feb-04, 02:25 PM
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so if i eat salmon every day (4.5G per serving) then there is almost no use for creatine? i mean if i eat enough foods that contain creatine then i do not need to take it as a suplement, correct?
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25-Feb-04, 09:30 AM
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Good post. Thanx 4 the info
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25-Feb-04, 04:07 PM
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creatine is a naturally occuring substance in the body, however ones supplementation with creatine inhibits the body from producing creatine naturally. Creatine is produced by the body for short intense exercises such as sprints, etc. NOT to be taken everyday as a dietary supplement! Creatine causes kidney failure, death from dehydration, and can be linked to brain cancer. Basically creatine causes the kidneys to pull water to the muscle cells. (Causes bloating of muscle, not increased strength) this overexertion of the kidneys is what will lead to kidney failure if one uses creatine continually. As for the drinking adequate water, well the more you drink, the more work your kidneys are doing while the exorbitant amounts of creatine are present in your body, which leads to kidney failure. As for death by dehydration, with creatine pulling water from other parts of your body, into your muscles, if you do not consume adequate water, you will become severely dehydrated, and those that do not fix the problem will end up in serious condition, be hospitalized or even die, if i were you, I would stay away from creatine.
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25-Feb-04, 08:50 PM
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im currently on creatine but want to get off- i hae gained about 15lbs and god bit muscle mss. if i get off will i loose all the weight?
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26-Feb-04, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by freeman
im currently on creatine but want to get off- i hae gained about 15lbs and god bit muscle mss. if i get off will i loose all the weight?
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i doubt it freeman. if anything you might look more cut becuase your water levels will be more regualted. you probably would have had those gains even without creatine.
ive never heard any one say "ive reached my plateau, so i took creatine and got tremendous gains."
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29-Feb-04, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaklee7
creatine is a naturally occuring substance in the body, however ones supplementation with creatine inhibits the body from producing creatine naturally. Creatine is produced by the body for short intense exercises such as sprints, etc. NOT to be taken everyday as a dietary supplement! Creatine causes kidney failure, death from dehydration, and can be linked to brain cancer. Basically creatine causes the kidneys to pull water to the muscle cells. (Causes bloating of muscle, not increased strength) this overexertion of the kidneys is what will lead to kidney failure if one uses creatine continually. As for the drinking adequate water, well the more you drink, the more work your kidneys are doing while the exorbitant amounts of creatine are present in your body, which leads to kidney failure. As for death by dehydration, with creatine pulling water from other parts of your body, into your muscles, if you do not consume adequate water, you will become severely dehydrated, and those that do not fix the problem will end up in serious condition, be hospitalized or even die, if i were you, I would stay away from creatine.
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are you going to back this up with anything?
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03-Mar-04, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaklee7
As for the drinking adequate water, well the more you drink, the more work your kidneys are doing while the exorbitant amounts of creatine are present in your body, which leads to kidney failure.
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That is absolutely wrong. Go back to Human Physiology 101, do not pass go.
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05-Mar-04, 07:16 PM
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I've scoured the internet for info on creatine. Your statements are highly exaggerated.
Creatine does make your kidneys work harder during the loading periods. Creatine has very little effect on kidneys in small doeses during matenence.
Creatine can dehydrate you. Gee just drink some dang water. Doctors reccomend people drink 64 oz a day wether you exercise or not and without creatine. If you drink as much water as a doctor recommends, creatine will not dehydrate you. I have also never heard of a doctor claiming that drinking too much water damages your kidneys. There is a such thing as water posioning, but give me a break.
Creatine does not strengthen your muscles. Well Duh. No one claims creatine will make you stronger without working out. Creatine helps people gain strength and muscle faster from strenous workouts.
I have known many people that have contributed creatine to much faster gains. Most of these people were involved in the NCAA Divison II football, rugby, track, and baseball.
From the dozens of people that I've know to take creatine--and their friends that take creatine. I have yet to hear a story of anyone being taken to an emergency room, complaining of a kidney disorder, etc...
In fact, the only supplement that has been independently proven to increase performance is creatine. Not Andro, not HMB, etc...
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Originally Posted by Shaklee7
creatine is a naturally occuring substance in the body, however ones supplementation with creatine inhibits the body from producing creatine naturally. Creatine is produced by the body for short intense exercises such as sprints, etc. NOT to be taken everyday as a dietary supplement! Creatine causes kidney failure, death from dehydration, and can be linked to brain cancer. Basically creatine causes the kidneys to pull water to the muscle cells. (Causes bloating of muscle, not increased strength) this overexertion of the kidneys is what will lead to kidney failure if one uses creatine continually. As for the drinking adequate water, well the more you drink, the more work your kidneys are doing while the exorbitant amounts of creatine are present in your body, which leads to kidney failure. As for death by dehydration, with creatine pulling water from other parts of your body, into your muscles, if you do not consume adequate water, you will become severely dehydrated, and those that do not fix the problem will end up in serious condition, be hospitalized or even die, if i were you, I would stay away from creatine.
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06-Mar-04, 04:14 PM
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hello,
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what happen if you stop taking creatine? will your muscle go "soft" and "flabby"? or will it have no difference on them except you want to drink less water?
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10-Mar-04, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael
hello,
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what happen if you stop taking creatine? will your muscle go "soft" and "flabby"? or will it have no difference on them except you want to drink less water?
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Your muscles may decrease in volume(all part of the water expelling process), but the muscle gains are very real and won't go away.
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10-Mar-04, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedfreak
That is absolutely wrong. Go back to Human Physiology 101, do not pass go.
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and collect 100 dollars  . Sorry I had to add that in. What is the logic behind drinking more water puts added strain on kidneys? Maybe if your water was filled with dirt and rocks...
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16-Mar-04, 09:47 PM
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lol i read the entire creatine faq and have a question of my own...
i have already bought creatine and am currently loading. In the long run, say after a few months i gain 10 pounds. If i terminate my use of creatine i know i will lose weight, water weight that is. But just how much out of the 10 will i lose? 7, 8, pounds? will i have approxiamtley a 2 pound muslce gain?
anybody have any insight?
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17-Mar-04, 04:43 AM
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i dont think its that much...for some reason i had in my head that you only put on like 3 or 4 pounds of water weight with creatine....but im probally wrong.
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18-Mar-04, 12:04 AM
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just womdering. im currently taking antiniotics. doxycyclin (i think). is it ok to take creatine. im pretty sure i should be right. but it doesnt hurt to double check.
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18-Mar-04, 08:32 PM
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how does this makes sense
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Originally Posted by abear
...So, it appears that the best time to use creatine would be after you finish training. It's also important to note that creatine taken during (or slightly before) exercise appears to "interfere" with the performance improvements linked with prior creatine loading... [21].
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OK that was posted by abear and that doesn't really makes sense to me. It was said previously in the article above that Creatine helps with resynthesizing of ATP which gives more energy to the user, which results in more reps, more energy, bigger muscles... etc. So wouldn't it make sense to take it before the workout since then it will give the user more energy to work out with. Why would u take it after the workout? What do you need the energy for? i mean taking protein after makes sense, since it helps with rebuilding muscle tissues. but why creatine???? HOw does it "interfere"???
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