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Old 20-May-03, 01:31 PM   #1
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Creatine FAQ


Here is a little something I put together to help answer the everyday creatine questions with generally agreed "facts." Please PM me if you think anything needs to be added or edited.

Creatine FAQ


Is creatine safe?
Creatine is a substance naturally found in the human body and in certain foods—especially meat. Dozens of studies have found no adverse effects from supplementation with creatine monohydrate. However, there is no guarantee that creatine is completely safe, as there are no very-long-term clinical trials yet. Supplementation with 5 grams of creatine monohydrate will roughly double to triple the amount of creatine in your body, although ingestion of X amount of creatine does not necessarily entail an X increase in serum and muscular creatine levels.

Side effects of creatine include a gain in water weight (which is, in part, how creatine achieves its beneficial effects), gastrointestinal upset, and, anecdotally, cramping. Those who supplement with creatine should be sure to drink copious amounts of water—preferably at least one gallon per day.


Who should take creatine?
People looking to gain strength and muscle size may very well benefit from creatine supplementation. There is little evidence that creatine is beneficial for activities such as marathons and other “duration” sports. Creatine is the standard supplement of choice for those looking to gain strength and size because, unlike many other flash-in-the-pan supplements, creatine works for most people.

It’s possible that people who consume no meat would benefit most from creatine supplementation, as there is little to none in a vegetarian diet. (Keep in mind that your body does produce some creatine on its own.) All commercially available creatine supplements are synthesized and strictly vegetarian.


How does creatine work?

During exercise, your muscles take a number of compounds and create a substance known as adenosine triphosphate (ATP). You might remember ATP from biology class as “containers of energy.” ATP is broken down to produce the energy for muscle contractions to take place. After a “container” of ATP is used for energy, it loses a phosphate group and becomes adenosine diphosphate (ADP). Without getting too technical, creatine supplementation provides your body with one of the chemicals needed to synthesize more ATP.

This is where a bit of debate comes in—specifically a chicken-and-egg routine regarding how creatine makes you bigger and stronger. Do you improve because the creatine allowed you to work more, thereby making you bigger? Or because creatine made you bigger, thereby allowing you to work more? Or because it helped you recover more quickly, thereby allowing you to work more? Regardless, it is generally agreed that the size increase achieved with creatine supplementation is not merely cosmetic “water weight”; in other words, your muscles are growing and you’re getting stronger.


How should I take creatine?

This is where things get interesting.

Powders, serums, or systems?

Creatine monohydrate is generally available as a pure powder, in a liquid form, and in a powdered mixture of creatine, sugar, and various other add-ins like flavoring and coloring.

It’s safe to say that liquid is not the way to go. Creatine is not stable in liquid form, and usually the only people who claim that serum works are the people selling it.

Pure creatine powder (a container of nothing but creatine) is the standard, inexpensive way of obtaining the supplement. It is mixed in a liquid—although it doesn’t really dissolve—and consumed immediately. Most instructions recommend a “loading” phase wherein you consume four servings per day for five to seven days, before going down to the standard one serving. This is not absolutely necessary, since supplementation with 5 grams of creatine daily will achieve proper muscle saturation within a few weeks. However, pure creatine powder is inexpensive and there is nothing wrong with loading to achieve saturation more quickly.

It is commonly agreed that creatine should be consumed immediately after exercise, as this is the time frame when your muscles most need replenishment. If you take creatine only once per day, as is generally recommended in package instructions, this is the time to do it. Creatine is not an “instant energy booster” like energy gels and bars.

Regarding postworkout replenishment: this is where the “systems” come in. Most creatine transport systems use sugar to boost insulin levels and help shuttle creatine into your cells. It is generally agreed that this is effective, but systems are expensive and the sugar is really the only added component proven to do anything. You can purchase plain dextrose online, at a good food store, or from a home-brewing store and make your own creatine transport system very inexpensively. Simply add dextrose to your pure creatine in the ratio found in whichever off-the-shelf system you wish to emulate (you might start with 40 to 80 grams of sugar).

You can also achieve a similar effect by adding creatine to sweet fruit juices such as grape juice. It has been claimed that adding creatine to highly acidic juices such as orange or grapefruit will diminish creatine’s effects, but there are no studies as of yet to confirm this.

Some transport systems use insulin-like or -boosting agents such as alpha-lipoic acid. This may or may not be effective, but is it not likely to be any more effective than boosting insulin with sugar.

Note: if you are also taking a weight gainer or other postworkout shake with simple carbohydrates, keep track of your sugar intake. You might elect to add creatine directly to the shake if there is sufficient sugar to serve as a transport system.


Which brands are the best?

Because creatine monohydrate is a simple, identifiable compound, this is an easy question. Any brand that uses pure creatine monohydrate is good. There are a few “certifications” for pure creatine: anything with a Creapure, SKW, or Pfanstiehl certification on the label is fine. (Creapure and SKW are one and the same.) You can shop by price.


Is it OK to take creatine with X?

Inasmuch as we consider creatine itself to be safe, it’s safe to take it with your other supplements. There is no evidence that creatine “competes” with proteins, vitamins, or fat burners.


What else works like creatine?

The mechanism of action of creatine (see How does creatine work? above) is unique; there is no other supplement that does exactly the same thing. Anabolic steroids are known to be effective when used correctly, but they are illegal and the side effects are very serious. If you’re looking for other supplements to help gain mass and strength, it’s hard to go wrong with protein supplementation and a multivitamin (both as adjuncts to quality diets). Add plenty of rest and water, and you’ve pretty much covered your effective, safe bases.
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I have a question. I always hear that you should drink TONS of water when you are on creatine. What happens when you don't get enough water on some days?

i.e. I take creatine everyday: 2 doses on days I lift, 1 dose on days off. On Saturday I usually don't lift and its the hardest day for me to get alot of water intake because I forget about it.

What are the side effects of not getting enough water? Is one or two days per week of not drinking alot of water detrimental?
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Old 20-May-03, 05:10 PM   #3
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It's theorized that lack of hydration is what leads to the cramping that some people experience. I haven't had that happen, but I've noticed that my lips get dry, at which point I make a concerted effort to drink water.

The effects would be similar to regular dehydration, I think. Dry lips are a good sign. Those big muscles you get are largely water, so you're cheating yourself if you're not drinking a lot.
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Old 20-May-03, 09:28 PM   #4
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I've heard that it could cause you to have kidneystones, maybe that's why you need some much water!
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Old 21-May-03, 04:11 AM   #5
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kidneystones ? :confused: Ugh, that suxx. I'm in loading phase now
After how many days did you guys actually notice any differences ?
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Old 21-May-03, 09:53 AM   #6
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There is no evidence whatsoever that creatine causes kidneystones. MrPump, if you'd like to link to a study supporting your statement, please do.

Lapo, people generally notice the effects of creatine supplementation within as little as three weeks--assuming that nutrition and hard weight training are all lined up.
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Old 21-May-03, 12:20 PM   #8
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Should I remove CARDIO from my workout plan, when I'm on creatine ? (Still wanna lose some belly-Fat)
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Old 22-May-03, 07:48 AM   #9
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TOP POST Shmackey ...a great read
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Old 22-May-03, 06:35 PM   #10
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Should I remove CARDIO from my workout plan, when I'm on creatine ? (Still wanna lose some belly-Fat)
There are differing opinions on this subject. You don't have to remove cardio completely. Cardio is good for your heart and lungs, not just for losing body fat. Because you're trying to gain muscle mass you want to make sure you're not eating away at those muscles while you're doing cardio. Don't do cardio on an empty stomach (another controversial subject) and do your cardio on opposite days that you lift so you space out your workouts.

Bottom line: no, you don't NEED to remove cardio from your workout plan completely.
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Old 23-May-03, 03:27 AM   #11
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Ok thanks for info
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Old 25-May-03, 12:58 PM   #12
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Do you take creatine on your rest day?
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Old 25-May-03, 01:20 PM   #13
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Do you take creatine on your rest day?
Hmm, I do. Is that wrong ? I'm taking it for 1 week now.
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Do you take creatine on your rest day?
Yes you do. Your body can only hold so much creatine and then the rest is wasted. But, you want to keep your muscles saturated so you can get the optimal performance from it. For most people that is 5-10g a day. For a very very large person it might be more, the same like a very very small person may use less.
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Old 04-Jun-03, 12:45 PM   #15
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Well im only 150 lbs, and im taking 10g servings now (the recommended 2 scoops per 14oz of water), since i dont weigh 300 lbs, should I start taking only 1 scoop for 5g of creatine or will that hinder my results?
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