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Old 10-Nov-02, 03:31 PM   #1
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Creatine Serum


I know there has been many posts on creatine of late, and the general consensus is that liquid creatine is rubbish due to the instability of this supplement.

I'm wondering if liquid creatine is the same as creatine serum.

I see many adverts for this particular product which has a wide and varied range of creatine serums. Some of it's supposed benefits are;

-100% stable with a 2 year shelf-life.
-no loading, no maintenance, no cycling required.
-100% soluble. Bioavailable. Reaches the muscles in minutes.
-instant absorption. Take just minutes before your workout.
-small dosages have the equivalent benefit of large amounts of powder.
-no short or long term side effects.
-does not cause water retention, bloating or cramping.
-completely safe with no risk of possible kidney or liver damage.
-contains additional supplements.

Is this all just too good to be true?

Usually I would pass adverts like this by, but it's claim of no risk to the kidneys caught my eye. I had some kidney problems about 2 years ago, which although has now been sorted out I never really found out the cause, or even if it's a recurring problem. Therefore I'm obviously wary about taking anything which might cause further damage, or at the very least aggravate a condition.

So does anyone out there know anything about this product? Heard about it? Think it's decent or just rubbish?

Thanks for the help (in advance).

-Leofell.
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Old 10-Nov-02, 03:39 PM   #2
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I just use regular micronized creatine....I know it works.

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Old 10-Nov-02, 07:14 PM   #3
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Pls shoot me.


Put the bong down Leofell.

Your body can hold 100g's of creatine. That's close to a 1/4 pound.

What's that little itty bitty tiny wienny bottle weigh?

Shlt, crack is cheaper. Stick with that. Good strength gains too.

No side effects - it's water, duh!

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Old 10-Nov-02, 08:25 PM   #4
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First of all, creatine monohydrate breaks down in water, which means it can't be an aqueous solution and still have that shelf life. Things that dissolve in water won't dissolve in a nonpolar liquid like an alcohol, so I doubt they've found a way around it. (And if it breaks down in water, it probably would in any other polar liquid.) I don't know of any liquid form the molecule takes, so I'm very suspicious of anything calling itself a creatine "serum".

No maintenace required- bull****. Creatine is the transporter molecule for ATP (cellular energy currency) in muscles. Therefore, it gets used up. If you take more than your body can store or use at one time, it is excreted.

Don't worry about your kidneys. There's been no research indicating creatine itself poses any kind of risk to them, independent of what form it's in.

In short, those are completely outrageous claims, and I hope whatever British regulatory agency is responsible for truth in advertising gets its hands on them soon.
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Don't worry about your kidneys. There's been no research indicating creatine itself poses any kind of risk to them, independent of what form it's in.
Thanks, Cougar. I appreciate the info.

-Leofell.
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Old 11-Nov-02, 04:09 PM   #6
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Appologies to Leofell, if I seemed mean (apparently I was).

$50 for a little dropper of red dye gets me riled up.

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