creatine's effects on weight

[MAURER]

hey i just got done with my wrestling season and i am planning on working out to stay in shape and gain around 10 pounds, hopefully 15 by july. i was wondering if anyone who has personal experience with creatine could give me an estimate on how much and over what time period i might expect to gain weight if i begin to use creatine as a supplement in addition to a protein shake every day and weight lifting several times a week?

[Maxgain]

6 +/- 2 lbs in the first week as water retention and then its up to your cal intake

[TeflonTron]

If it's 6lbs of water retention then aren't you going to look all bloated and crap? That must put a dent on the confidence levels!

[Gearloose]

The water is retained in your muscle tissue.

Look at my avatar. I'm on creatine.

[MAURER]

uh oh... if thats what im gonna look like..... haha just kiddin man. thanks.

[Slated]

Creatine Ethel Ester (CEE) does not cause bloat in the way that most are used to seeing with creatine monohydrate use. The dosage needed is also lower because of the improved absorbtion.

If you're hoping to put on that much weight, your diet is going to be crucial. 1.5g of protein per body mass minimum with at least 1.5 gallons of water per day to releave the stress on your kidneys. I personally try to eat every three hours with every other meal being a quality protein shake for the amino acids, essential fatty acids, and vit/mins.

I've also found that trying to isolate my carb intake to those from whole grains and steel cut oats has made a HUGE difference in my bulking. I add 1/2 cup to 3/4 oats to each of my protein shakes, and have gained 8 lbs since the addition.

[Slated]

Here's me by the way

24
5'10"
185ish

Used to compete till I destroyed my leg in a mt biking accident. Now I'm just an OTC supplement junkie and closet bodybuilder

You've got some good size going Slated. Welcome to the board.

[dressed4it]

Originally Posted by Slated

Creatine Ethel Ester (CEE) does not cause bloat in the way that most are used to seeing with creatine monohydrate use. The dosage needed is also lower because of the improved absorbtion.

If you're hoping to put on that much weight, your diet is going to be crucial. 1.5g of protein per body mass minimum with at least 1.5 gallons of water per day to releave the stress on your kidneys. I personally try to eat every three hours with every other meal being a quality protein shake for the amino acids, essential fatty acids, and vit/mins.

I've also found that trying to isolate my carb intake to those from whole grains and steel cut oats has made a HUGE difference in my bulking. I add 1/2 cup to 3/4 oats to each of my protein shakes, and have gained 8 lbs since the addition.

Do oats need to be cooked, or will they digest OK raw?

Also, someone mentioned the 'bloat' from creatine was contained in the muscles, not necesarrily retaining water like edema? WOuldn't this be a good thing, to have you muscles pumped up more?

One more thing: 1.5g of protein per KILOGRAM, not pound, right? That's what I have been shooting for at least.

[Slated]

Originally Posted by dressed4it

Do oats need to be cooked, or will they digest OK raw?

Also, someone mentioned the 'bloat' from creatine was contained in the muscles, not necesarrily retaining water like edema? WOuldn't this be a good thing, to have you muscles pumped up more?

One more thing: 1.5g of protein per KILOGRAM, not pound, right? That's what I have been shooting for at least.

Bulking or cutting, I always ensure to ingest 1.5 per pound for protein. While bulking, I taking in 3x bodyweight for carbs, and 1x while cutting. EFAs while bulking I keep at .5x body weight while bulking and .15-.2 while cutting.

Oats are great. I munch on them raw sometimes, otherwise I just scoop them directly into my protein shake, let them sit and soak for 5 min, shake and drink. goes well with my Mass Meals, doesn't taste bad, and you get used to the texture.

Monohydrate bloat is way overrated IMO, but CEE will provide the same gains without the bloat.

[Klinger]

maurer - When I used creatine about a year ago, I added 10 pounds and leveled off there by my 5th week (172 to 182).

It will cost you a little definition (if you care about that) but it will give you added bulk and a mild strength kick.

[MAURER]

Originally Posted by Klinger

maurer - When I used creatine about a year ago, I added 10 pounds and leveled off there by my 5th week (172 to 182).

It will cost you a little definition (if you care about that) but it will give you added bulk and a mild strength kick.

well i have a lot of definition right now and im thin. my goal is to add weight so i think its alright if i lose a bit of definition if its going to help size.

[Maxgain]

Originally Posted by dressed4it

Do oats need to be cooked, or will they digest OK raw?

They dont need to be cooked but do need to be soaked to swell or else you are at risk of bezoar formation in the intestines

[dressed4it]

Originally Posted by Slated

Bulking or cutting, I always ensure to ingest 1.5 per pound for protein. While bulking, I taking in 3x bodyweight for carbs, and 1x while cutting. EFAs while bulking I keep at .5x body weight while bulking and .15-.2 while cutting.

Oats are great. I munch on them raw sometimes, otherwise I just scoop them directly into my protein shake, let them sit and soak for 5 min, shake and drink. goes well with my Mass Meals, doesn't taste bad, and you get used to the texture.

Monohydrate bloat is way overrated IMO, but CEE will provide the same gains without the bloat.

Exactly what I wanted to know, thanks! Guess I will be uppin' the food intake again. It is getting easier to eat more, tho, so it shouldn't be too bad. One of those things you just have to practice, I suppose. CEE is creatine ethyl ester, yes? Is it more expensive than regular creatine and, if yes, would you say it is worth the extra $$?? I just started supp with creatine monohydrate today.