Dbol and 6 OXO

[Gooseneck]

I've been doing short cycles (2 on, 4 off) of Dbol for the past month or so and am getting good results. However, should I be taking something like 6 OXO during the 4 weeks off to help with test levels?? Should I maybe take it during the 2 weeks on to help keep bloat down?? Just curious as to what others may think. Thanks.

Just for the record, I'm 25 and have been lifting for several years. Diet is in check and have done a couple inject cycles in the past so I do have a clue as to what I'm doing.

[Romeo]

Can you tell me what is 6 OXO?

[Jock]

I don't know much about that stuff, but I think you should get your hands on some Nolvadex and Clomid before you start popping the D-bol.

Jock

[Romeo]

Originally Posted by Jock

I don't know much about that stuff, but I think you should get your hands on some Nolvadex and Clomid before you start popping the D-bol.

Jock

Jock's right for the antiestrogens. D-bol as all other oral steroids has very strong anabolic effects but sides too.

[Jackal]

Uhm 6-oxo doesnt do anything to your test levels its about your estrogen levels.... i agree with Jock get some nolva/clomid they are much much better and neccessary.

[Gooseneck]

Ok, I can understand the Nolvadex for recovery, however, arent anti-aromatase like OXO or Arimidex better for gyno and bloating because of the blocking of the androgens completely?? Anti-Estrogens allow some of conversion to estrogen, which we need, but for short term use, anti-aromatase would be better, right??

Sorry, just trying to determine what works best, and what has a lot of hype.

[ZedsDead]

u can use femara or armidex to prevent...
what dosages are u using? also, i would do 4 weeks on at a low dosage then like 6-10 weeks off.. dbol takes 2 weeks to hit me.. i see my best gains in weeks 2-4.. maybe u are different tho i know it hits some ppl right away...

[Gooseneck]

Dbol hits me right away. I've been doing 15 mg of Ref. B in the mornings and have very good response from that. The reason why I only go 10-14 days is because thats about the time your body starts to really shut down your test production, which in turn means much harder to keep gains, especially from Dbol alone. Many do this same method and dont even do any PCT, and can keep gains from it. It is when people do Dbol for 6 weeks and there HPTA is shut down, thats when gains are lost and tempers flare.
Dbol is a powerful steroid, which in a nutshell builds muscle. The biggest misconception about it is that you wont keep gains. That is BS. The weight you do lose afterwards is water, and if you keep your androgens under conntrol during the short cycle, the less water your gonna lose.
I guess all I'm looking for is some other folks who have done this method and what there thoughts were. This is a relatively new cycle, and most people dont think it works because there caught up in the long cycle only hype. You have to understand how each steroid works and how it affects you.

6-OXO binds to the aromatase enzyme in a permanent and irreversible manner, rendering it inactive. The result of this is an eventual diminishment of aromatase enzyme in the body and a concomitant reduction in estrogen levels. A corresponding increase in testosterone production is usually experienced as well.

6-OXO stands very useful is in restoring full endogenous testosterone production after a cycle of prohormones or steroids.

I think you are smart for using dbol on two week cycles. It should do less harm to your HPTA that way. Introducing another compond afterwards kind of defeats the purpose of not messing with your bodily systems for prolonged periods of time. My opinion is to not use it unless your are experiencing problems post cycle.

[Gooseneck]

Thanks. I think I'm gonna try and use it at minimum dose during cycle, and see if it helps keep some bloat down and harden up the muscles a little. This particular kind of cycle can be very effective if done correctly and strictly. I think I'm gonna do another Test cycle in a couple months, but I wanted to see how this worked as a mild muscle building cycle.

Thanks Ironman.

[testing901]

I've heard of that idea many years ago 'bout using 2 weeks on and 4 weeks off...was wondering if equipoise would also work under these conditions...I've always like equipoise because it was a better anabolic roid with less sides (but also less gains, but it's a better gain over the long run)...

How about this...a small shot every 3 days for 14 days...

My BIGGEST concern is baldness...as I DON'T WANT IT!!

Is equipoise under these conditions as androgenic as others??

EQ takes too long to get active in your system, therefore it is not a good choice for short cycles. Dbol, winny, anadrol, test suspension, maybe test propinate, and tren are about the only steroids worth using in short cycles.