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08-Jul-03, 04:53 PM
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deca-durabolin&sustanon250
is here somebody that made a cycle with this drugs ? i belive i need some help
i'm 18 years old, and i'd like to make a cycle :
Week 1 : 400mg deca-durabolin+250mg sustanon
Week 2 : 200mg deca-durabolin+250mg sustanon
Week 3 : 200mg deca-durabolin+250mg sustanon
Week 4 : 200mg deca-durabolin+250mg sustanon
Week 5 : 200mg deca-durabolin+250mg sustanon
Week 6 : 200mg deca-durabolin+250mg sustanon
Week 7 : 200mg deca-durabolin+250mg sustanon
Week 8 : 200mg deca-durabolin+250mg sustanon
The recovery : 1500UI Hcg, from 2 in 2 days for 2 weeks, and clomid 5444333222111 (5 in the 1 day, 4 in the second day, 4 .....)
i want to know if there are some things that i should know, before starting...
i'd like to know too if rhis cycle worked, and how...(just the oppinios of those who made the cycle  )
Thanks!
pls excuse my english, i'm from Romania 
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Last edited by Radmax; 08-Jul-03 at 04:55 PM.
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08-Jul-03, 07:11 PM
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I know I can't tell you much on the subject, but Jock currently has an incredibly informative journal on the subject... He'll probably be able to tell you more about it, but the post is at:
http://www.discussfitness.com/showth...6&pagenumber=1
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08-Jul-03, 09:07 PM
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Rad, welcome to the board. Being 18 years old I strongly recommend that you DO NOT do any cycles at this time. Your body right now is making everything you need to grow. Dial in your diet and lifting regime first before you jump into using roids. Too many times I have heard of guys using at your age, then wishing a few years later that they had waited. Remember one thing -- Bodybuilding and patience go hand in hand. Take your time, do it right, and you will reap many, many rewards.
The cycle you wrote looks good. Not over done, plenty to grow on. You wouldn't use the HCG or clomid until three weeks after your last shot. And use the clomid for three weeks instead of two. Also, you didn't list nolvadex. You should have that on hand prior to starting your cycle just to be on the safe side.
One more time bro -- please wait until you are older.
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08-Jul-03, 10:18 PM
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Umm, I used clomid and HCG when I was going through fertility treatments. I have two kiddies now
What does clomid and HCG (hormones) have to do with this forum?
They say there is no such thing as a dumb question? 
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09-Jul-03, 05:15 AM
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You are right, never such a thing as a dumb question Timbers. When you use AAS your body stops producing testosterone as a way to keep in balance. When you end a cycle, you need to get your testes working again as quickly as possible so you don't lose the gains you made throughout the cycle. HCG and clomid both work to get your natural testosterone levels up to normal levels again. Both of these drugs accomplish that goal. The problem you had with low fertility is very close to how a person's body is post cycle.
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09-Jul-03, 06:08 AM
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Timbers - I had that same question a while back when I read about someone using Clomid  .
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09-Jul-03, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbers
What does clomid and HCG (hormones) have to do with this forum?
They say there is no such thing as a dumb question? 
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I had that same question a while back when I read about someone using Clomid
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Clomid? Clomid is just a bodybuilding supplement. I can't see any other use for it
Steve
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09-Jul-03, 05:19 PM
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Yeah, a supp that gets one in touch with their feminine side. Ooo-la-la!
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09-Jul-03, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by IronMan
Yeah, a supp that gets one in touch with their feminine side. Ooo-la-la!
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 It helped me to produce more eggs
The HCG shot was given to make me ovulate at a specific time (within the next 48 hours of the injection)
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09-Jul-03, 06:38 PM
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:))
this cycle is not dangerous! if i'll make it , if i'll do everything by the book, i believe that i won't have any problems.
anyway, i'll start in 1 August  and i'll tell u exactly what i felt : +/- efects.
i won't use nolvadex because it cut's off a little bit more from my gains!
why should I ? it's enought clomid+HCG
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10-Jul-03, 12:42 PM
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Bro, I agree with everything Ironman has said. You are too young, at your age your body is producing enough testosterone to make good gains as long as you have a good diet. My guess is your diet isn't fuelling your workouts and thats why you have turned to steroids, stick around here and re-structure your diet, you will be very surprised at where you can be in 18 months time with a little commitment and discipline where your diet is concerned. Do this, train hard, get plenty of rest for 3/4 years and then re-evaluate whether or not you use gear.
You can ignore Ironman's advice, but don't say you weren't warned.
Your cycle is okay, but gains are all about diet, training and lifestyle not roids. I would prefer a single ester over sust especially if this is your first cycle.
HCG is overkill on those low dosages, clomid will be fine.
You MUST have Nolvadex, you should NEVER go into a cycle without an anti-estrogen on hand, have you ever heard of ' bitch tits'?
It sounds like you still have a lot to learn....... if you are going to go ahead with this cycle at least pospone it and get some more knowledege. You can do your body serious harm going into something like this unprepared.
Go to www.muscletalk.co.uk and start learning from the bros over there, they are very friendly and will not flame anyone, plus their knowledge is second-to-none. If you want detailed info e-mail one of the mods like Wrongun or Bigfella, they will sort you out.
Stay safe bro, Jock
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17-Jul-03, 04:30 PM
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primo
i'll make first a cycle with primobolan depot(100mg/ml), it's more safe.
Frontloading: 400mg frist week, and 200mg/wekk another 7 weeks.
who used primo. ?
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17-Jul-03, 05:09 PM
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Bro, I'm not about to go shouting anything off, but just trust me on this one when I say make sure you know the source your ordering primo off is legit.....because it is getting very hard to get hold of, real primo is real expensive too.
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17-Jul-03, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee J B
Bro, I'm not about to go shouting anything off, but just trust me on this one when I say make sure you know the source your ordering primo off is legit.....because it is getting very hard to get hold of, real primo is real expensive too.
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i'm paying 6$/amp....
here susta is 5$/amp
i buy them from a dealer...and he buy's the amp from the factory 
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17-Jul-03, 05:27 PM
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Your all sorted then, most people aren't in your situation....and most get ripped off. Glad to hear you got it covered.
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