Deca Vs. Sustanon

[superbock]

For the first time steroid user wich is best: a Deca cycle or a Sustanon cycle??

[Lee J B]

Depends what your aiming to get from your cycle, they would both be good for different things, or you could even stack both. Deca is a good all round gainer (although if your gonna be tested dont opt for this...people been known to test positive for use 1 1/2 years later), gives good gains from promoting positive nitrogen balances in your muscle cells thus allowing your cells to take in more protein than usual, also good for reducing body fat although not I personally would not use it for this purpose...... quite low on the toxicity scale, not as bad on the liver as some but some sides can occur obviously...Sust on the other hand is fast acting and aromatises less, although your still gonna see some sides. Probs notice less water rentention, sust would probably suit you more again for a bulk stacked with something like var or abombs. Dont need to go over 250mg week or 500mg / 10 days with the sust to see good results.....and can be used for longer periods of time.

[Jock]

I would say Sustanon, as Lee said 250/500mg would be an optimum dosage with 20-30mg of D-bol for the first 3/4 weeks just to kick start things.

Sust can be stacked with Deca to produce great results, but I'd advise you to go with a single ester such as Cypionate or Enanthate for your first cycle.

I'm currently on my first cycle of 500mg Test Cyp and 300mg Deca, and seeing great results.

Don't forget to have your anti-e's, nolvadex for Sust/Test and Proviron for the Deca, eat like a horse, lift like a madman and follow the correct clomid post cycle course to get your test levels on the mend.

Jock

[superbock]

tks to both, I think i'm starting with a deca only cycle (with the proper anti-e's), and a lot of exercice.

[Jock]

Wooaahh bro get ready for Deca dick, you gotta run a test alongside, or you can say goodbye to your sex-life for a while.

Jock

[Lee J B]

If your going with Deca take Jock up on his advice. Sust is a strain of 4 testosterone components that react very positively with each other, the bonous of this is that with users of sust you dont have to increase the dosage as much each time it has been shown to be very good with continued usage at low doses unlike users of cyp or enan they find they have to increase the dosage each time they use to get the results they want.....Also, first cycle right? Why Deca ? Why not just a low shot of test twice week ?

[superbock]

"Why not just a low shot of test twice week ?"

Define "test"? do you mean testoviron?

And I made a mistake, I was thinking in Sustanon and writing Deca, sorry.

[Lee J B]

test = testosterone. Low dose will yeild very good results, no point in going anything harder for first cycle to be honest.... how old ar eyou by the way if you dont mind me asking?

[Steve]

Originally posted by Jock
Wooaahh bro get ready for Deca dick, you gotta run a test alongside, or you can say goodbye to your sex-life for a while.

Jock

I CAN happen....not it WILL happen.

Steve

What are your stats, superbock? Age, weight, years training, goals. Might be easier to give advice if we knew where you wish to go.

[superbock]

I'm 30, and I have 185 cm, with 80 Kg. training ever since, and training harder (every day with proper food and some supplements) for 6 months.

Tell me more about test, if you please.

[Lee J B]

I think that you should carry on the hard training for about another 6 months before you take anything...Test is your natural hormone so basically injecting it will mean your walking around with the same amount of test as someone of say 19 - 21 around there, it will mean muscle will repair faster from workouts and you will be able to use protein more effciently, thus why you have to work twice as hard.....go to google and do a few searches bro, you can find more than we could ever write to you.

[superbock]

Ok, once more many thanks, to all. By the end of the year if I don't have at least 10 Kg more (20 Pounds) I will consider on taking a simple cycle of Sust.

TKS to all.

[Steve]

Originally posted by superbock
I'm 30, and I have 185 cm, with 80 Kg. training ever since, and training harder (every day with proper food and some supplements) for 6 months.

Oi cara, tudo bem??

Training only for six months? My advice is to train a bit more before thinking about steroids.

Steve

[Jock]

Originally posted by Steve
Training only for six months? My advice is to train a bit more before thinking about steroids.

BUMP 6 months is not enough IMO.

Jock