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Old 04-Aug-04, 08:13 PM   #1
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dextrose...can cause you to become diabetic?


I asked the people I order all my supps from if they could get some dextrose for me (i cant find it anywhere) and they told me not to mess with my insulin levels by using dextrose and maltodextrin because it could cause me to become diabetic...anybody know anything about this?
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Old 04-Aug-04, 08:55 PM   #2
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What is diabetes?
Diabetes mellitus is a condition where the body cannot use the glucose, (sugar), properly so the level rises in the blood. We need glucose for energy. Glucose comes from foods such as bread, potatoes, chapatis, yams, plantain and is also made, by the body, in the liver.

To help the body use the glucose for energy, you need insulin. It is vital for life. Insulin is usually made by the body, in the pancreas and helps the glucose enter the body cells.

In diabetes, the blood glucose level rises, the body tries to lower it by passing the extra glucose out in the urine. This makes the person pass more urine, (water) which makes them thirsty so they drink more. One of the early signs of diabetes is when the person complains of feeling thirsty and needing to pass a lot of urine, (water). Because the body cannot use glucose for energy, it will start to use the fat stores in the body instead. This causes the person to lose weight. A person will often complain of:
feeling very thirsty and needing a lot to drink
passing a lot of urine, (water), even at night
feeling tired
losing weight
difficulty in seeing clearly
itching or skin rashes.


Type 1 diabetes (also called insulin dependent diabetes)
Type 1 diabetes happens when the body is not able to make any insulin. Most people who develop this type of diabetes, are less than 40 years old. It is more common in people from Asian, African-Caribbean and Chinese communities. It is treated by insulin injections, healthy diet and physical activity.

Type 2 diabetes, (also called non-insulin dependent diabetes)
Type 2 diabetes happens when the body can still make some insulin, but not enough for its needs, or the insulin it makes, does not work properly, (known as insulin resistance). This is more common in people over 40 years of age, although recently there has been a significant increase in the number of teenagers and young adults developing Type 2 diabetes. It is more common in people from Asian, African-Caribbean and Chinese communities. It is treated by healthy diet and physical activity alone, or with, tablets, healthy diet and physical activity. Some people with Type 2 diabetes need insulin by injection especially when they have had the diabetes for some years.

Myths & Facts about diabetes
Myth-Eating too much sugar causes diabetes.
Fact-No, being overweight makes you at risk of Type 2 diabetes.

Myth-You cannot eat sugar if you have diabetes.
Fact-No, sugar can be part of your total diet. Speak to a dietitian about this.

Myth-You can catch diabetes. .
Fact-No, if a person in the family has diabetes, there is a greater risk of a family member to develop it.

Myth-You may only have mild diabetes.
Fact-No, you have diabetes or you do not.

Myth-You can be cured of diabetes.
Fact-No, it can be managed but there is no cure available. There are many treatments and the correct one will be decided for you.

Myth-People with diabetes must not exercise.
Fact-No, physical activity is important in helping to control blood glucose levels.

Myth-The diet for diabetes is very strict and you have to eat special foods.
Fact-No, you should eat the same healthy diet advised for everyone. Special diabetic foods are expensive and unnecessary.

Myth-There are herbs and other preparations, which can replace insulin or tablets.
Fact-No, some herbal remedies may help reduce the blood glucose level, but it will not cure it.

Myth-You cannot drive if you have diabetes.
Fact-There are certain vehicles, which you will not be allowed to drive. These include large buses and lorries. You must tell the driving licence office that you have diabetes.

Myth-You will not be able to get a job so easily.
Fact-There are some jobs from which you would be banned, eg airline pilot, driving a passenger bus. It should not stop you getting work.

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Old 05-Aug-04, 04:06 PM   #3
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$1.00 a pound here.
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Old 07-Aug-04, 06:12 PM   #4
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Lady C,

Love the information you posted I think it's awesome but a quick question for you. Rumor has it that prolonged use of GH can lead to diabetes. Have you heard any truth to the matter?

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Old 07-Aug-04, 06:18 PM   #5
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I don't know. I haven't researched growth harmone but I can tell you insulin is a natural growth harmone. You don't become diabetic from too much, it is from too little insulin usually.
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I don't know. I haven't researched growth harmone but I can tell you insulin is a natural growth harmone. You don't become diabetic from too much, it is from too little insulin usually.
So people can actually use insulin shots, even though they are not needed, to help build muscle? I've read up on taking slin briefely but have heard that there are some dangerous sides and could easily put you into a coma if you mess around with it.

So there is no such thing as too much insulin?
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Old 07-Aug-04, 06:43 PM   #7
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No such thing as too much insulin ?? People who aren't diabetic and who like to use insulin to their advantage have often been in the game a very long time and know what they're doing - it wont directly help build muscle, but it will have a very positive anabolic affect in the way of nutrient shuttling and nitrogen balancing in muscle tissue. There are no sides to taking the right amount of insulin, except for your likely to desensitise your receptors within a few years if you keep it up (or less - making you a type 1 I think it is), but then again, too much sugar etc can do that to you in a longer period of time, so why not take the risk ?

Well, there's a simple answer to that. If you've got too much glucose in your blood we all know insulin is secreted, however, if you then inject more insulin (we're talking over the correct injection amount which I won't discuss) your heading for serious trouble. One of two things can happen, either the insulin binds and shuttles all the nutrients you require it to (what your aiming for) or you get an overload which the chemical buffers can't cope with, which means the glucose isn't taken up. There's a slight problem with that insofar that you can immediatly go into a coma (not due to the glucose directly but due to the effects it has on other body functions & reactions) or, because of the overload, your pancreas can actually release a hormone called glucagon which will begin to break down stored glycogen in the muscle into glucose ....which is obviously going to lead to serious problems.

Just how serious things get will depend upon by how much exactly your overdose on, you can probably get away with it if you only just mess up a little bit ... but keep that habit up and you'll soon find yourself in hospital. Conclusion is : If you know what your doing, slin is supurb, if you don't ... don't touch the stuff, even if you think you've read everything there is to know, if your going to try it - keep a doctor informed and also it would help if you have someone near by that knows what the hell your doing and has maybe done it themselves before.

P.S Also forgot to mention the less serious side affect, and more obvious one ... you gain a hell of a lot of weight (storage weight, afterall....that's what slins designed to do!). The above are worst case scenarios, but are very possible...
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Old 07-Aug-04, 06:50 PM   #8
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Good to hear from you Bro . . .

Just been doing some reading on Slin and I've only reached the tip of the iceberg and have no future palns to use it just like poking around to see what information I can dig up to make sure I got the facts straight.

Hope all is well with you bro and the info is much appreciated

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