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Old 10-Jun-03, 03:21 PM   #1
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Dhea


Anyone here have any current experience with it?

I've used it for years, on and off, -- I tend to cycle it.

But interestingly enough, when I picked up my latest bottle, it was smacked full of warnings of all sorts.

Granted with so much going on with the FDA and manufacturer claims to nutritional supplements, etc., that new and growing lists of warnings and disclaimers is to be expected.
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Old 10-Jun-03, 11:40 PM   #2
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From my understanding DHEA will only work if your levels of testosterone of dropped off because of age. It will not take you beyond your orginal levels, so if your natural production has not dropped off it should not effect you.

I have no idea how it would work in women though.
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Old 11-Jun-03, 12:21 AM   #3
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It really didn't do anything for me. Tribulus did the trick.

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PS. Now we're probably gonna hear how useless Tribulus is
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Old 11-Jun-03, 05:17 AM   #4
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I also understand that when it comes to women, we're pretty much shunned from this type of participation.
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Old 11-Jun-03, 10:09 AM   #5
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"From my understanding DHEA will only work if your levels of testosterone of dropped off because of age. It will not take you beyond your orginal levels, so if your natural production has not dropped off it should not effect you. "-MAXIMA

Maxima...it was also my understanding that if you supplement something your body already produces, you could inhibit your bodies' ability to keep producing it. Is this true?
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Old 11-Jun-03, 10:15 AM   #6
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"From my understanding DHEA will only work if your levels of testosterone of dropped off because of age. It will not take you beyond your orginal levels, so if your natural production has not dropped off it should not effect you. "-MAXIMA

Maxima...it was also my understanding that if you supplement something your body already produces, you could inhibit your bodies' ability to keep producing it. Is this true?
That is true if you take syntheitc testosterone, your natural levels will fall off, that's why stacks usually include things like HCG (it's been a while since I studied steroids and stacking) to kick your natural production back on at he end of a cycle.

However DHEA to my knowledge would not inhibit natural levels, if you are taking it and are already at your peak naturally it will just not do anything, it shouldn't inhibit your natural production.
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Old 11-Jun-03, 10:22 AM   #7
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So basically it's just depleting your bank account....
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So basically it's just depleting your bank account....
Unless your over 40, yes.
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Old 11-Jun-03, 11:42 AM   #9
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Isn't DHEA the weakest of all prohormones? If I read right I beleive it also has the greatest potential for side effects. (estrogen)
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Weakest?

I think there are other variables that need to be considered here.

Anyway, as for other precursors, there's also pregnenalone.
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Old 11-Jun-03, 05:55 PM   #11
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By weakest I mean I think it has the lowest % of conversion to test.
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Old 11-Jun-03, 06:20 PM   #12
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Dehydroepiandrosterone, or DHEA, is a steroid hormone, a chemical cousin of testosterone and estrogen. It is made from cholesterol by the adrenal glands, which sit atop each kidney. DHEA is known to be a precursor to the numerous steroid sex hormones (including estrogen and testosterone) which serve well-known refunctions, but the specific biological role of DHEA itself is not so well understood. Although the specific mechanisms of action for DHEA are only partially understood, supplemental DHEA has been shown to have anti-aging, anti-obesity and anti-cancer influences. In addition, it is known to stabilize nerve-cell growth and is being tested in Alzheimer’s patients. However, there is an interesting study called: "Scientific Verdict Still Out on DHEA" (Andrew Skolnick, JAMA, 11/6/96, p. 1365 ff). That title says a great deal about what we really know for certain about DHEA. Strides to understand it have been made in recent years.

The new rage is 3-acetyl-7-oxo-dehydroepiandrosterone, also called 7-oxo DHEA. Commercially known as 7-keto DHEA. The compound has passed toxicity tests, which looked at enzymes in the liver and blood hormone levels, and shown itself to be completely innocuous. It mimics thyroid hormone, which causes the body to make more heat, thus burning more calories. An early clinical trial published in the Journal of Exercise Physiology Online looked at 30 obese people who took either a placebo or 7-KETO. Both groups took three one-hour sessions of aerobic and anaerobic exercise per week. At the end of the eight-week study, the 7-KETO group had lost 1.8 percent of body fat, compared to 0.57 percent among the placebo exercisers. Their overall weight loss was 2.88 kilos, about three times the loss among those who took the placebo.

More compounds are yet to be discovered from DHEA.
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