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Old 15-Feb-03, 01:20 AM   #1
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does milk make you fart?


its latose and casinate the same thing???
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Old 15-Feb-03, 09:46 AM   #2
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I dunno, but after I made my first protein shake yesterday, I was lettin some DOOZIES!!!
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Old 15-Feb-03, 10:21 AM   #3
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LMAO, sometimes dairy products dont settle with me and some times they do...but when they dont..look out boys she is on fire..
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Old 15-Feb-03, 12:37 PM   #4
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Re: does milk make you fart?


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its latose and casinate the same thing???
No, lactose is the sugar found in milk. Caesin is the protein found in milk.

EDIT: I read "make you fat, not make you fart."

Now, lol, if you are lactose intolerant it might.
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Old 15-Feb-03, 01:36 PM   #5
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Here's something we all should learn so that we don't have to get thrown out of the house because the... eh... gases start flying.

If you're lactose intolerant, mix out your milk with a little water. This makes it easier on the gut.

When taking a protein drink, DO NOT eat fruit with it. Protein and fructose can cause an increase in fermentation that will lead to emissions that could be interpreted as an act of war. (Especially important if you're also eating eggs.)
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Old 15-Feb-03, 10:43 PM   #6
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When taking a protein drink, DO NOT eat fruit with it.
I mix strawberries or raspberries in my protein shakes in the morning . But, thankfully, I haven't been.....er..... what an embarassing topic LOL.
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Old 16-Feb-03, 03:18 PM   #7
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I was wondering what that smell was...
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Old 19-Feb-03, 11:05 PM   #8
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When I first started drinking soy milk I was a bit "exhaust oriented" but now that I drink it on a regular basis, not a problem, regular milk has never had and effect on me
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Old 21-Feb-03, 12:15 PM   #9
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if you have flatulant issues with milk buy a lactose free milk..
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Old 22-Feb-03, 10:05 AM   #10
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if you have flatulant issues with milk buy a lactose free milk..
That is an option, however, you would still expose yourself to the many negative health issues related to milk.

The lactose issue is a 'red flag' to let people know that we, as humans, should not be consuming cow's milk. It is designed for baby bovines...not humans. Consider this:
Lactose intolerance among adults of...
Asian descent-95-100%
Native Americans-95%
African-65-70%
Italian-65-70%
Hispanic-50-60%
Caucasion-10%

Countries with the highest consumption of dairy products: Finland, Sweden, United States, England.
Countries with the highest rates of osteoporosis:
Finland, Sweden, United States, England.

52 good reasons to abandon milk and dairy!
A is for ALLERGIES
"In reality, cow's milk, especially processed cow's
milk, has been linked to a variety of health problems,
including: mucous production, hemoglobin loss,
childhood diabetes, heart disease, atherosclerosis,
arthritis, kidney stones, mood swings, depression,
irritability, allergies..."
Townsend Medical Letter, May, 1995
___________________________________
"Most formula fed infants developed symptoms of
allergic rejection to cow milk proteins before one
month of age. About 50-70% experienced rashes or
other skin symptoms, 50-60 percent gastrointestinal
symptoms, and 20-30 percent respiratory symptoms.
The recommended therapy is to avoid cow's milk."
Pediatric-Allergy-Immunology, August, 1994, 5(5 Suppl.)
__________________________________
B is for BREAST CANCER
"Human Insulin-like growth factor (IGF-I) and
bovine IGF-I are identical. Both contain 70 amino
acids in the identical sequence."
SCIENCE, vol. 249. August 24, 1990.

"IGF-I produces a 10-fold increase in RNA
levels of cancer cells. IGF-I appears to be a
critical component in cellular proliferation."
X.S. Li, Exp-Cell-Res., March, 1994, 211(1)
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C is for CROHN'S DISEASE
"Mycobacterium paratuberculosis is capable of
surviving commercial pasteurization."
Applied and Environmental Microbiology: 64(3), Mar 1998.
"Mycobacterium paratuberculosis (bacteria
not killed by pasteurization) RNA was
found in 100% of Crohn's disease patients,
compared with 0% of controls."

D. Mishina, Proceedings National Academy of
Sciences USA :93: September, 1996
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D is for DIABETES
"The National Dairy Board's Slogan, 'Milk. It does
a body good,' sounds a little hollow these days."
Scientific American, October, 1992

"These new studies, and more than 20
well-documented previous ones, have prompted
one researcher to say the link between milk and
juvenile diabetes is 'very solid'."
Diabetes Care 1994;17 (12)
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E is for EAR INFECTIONS
"Milk allergies are very common in children... They
are the leading cause of the chronic ear infections
that plague up to 40% of all children under the
age of six."
Julian Whitaker, M.D., "Health & Healing,"
October, 1998, Volume 8, No. 10
"Cow's milk has become a point of controversy
among doctors and nutritionists. There was a time
when it was considered very desirable, but research
has forced us to rethink this recommendation...dairy
products contribute to a surprising number of health
problems (including) chronic ear problems..."
Benjamin Spock, M.D., "Child Care," 7th Edition
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F is for FAT
"Milk fat has been identified as a cholesterol-
elevating fat because it contains cholesterol
and is primarily saturated."
Journal of Dairy Science 1991;74 (11)
"Preference for a diet high in animal fat could be
a pathogenic factor, and milk and high fat dairy
products contribute considerably to dietary fat
intake."
J. Am Coll Nutr, 2000 Apr, 19:2 Suppl
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G is for GROWTH FACTOR
"Levels of IGF increase in milk after cows are
treated with rbGH."
National Institutes of Health Assessment of
Bovine Somatotropin, December, 1990
"The insulin-like growth factor (IGF) system is
widely involved in human carcinogenesis. A
significant association between high circulating
IGF-I concentrations and an increased risk of
lung, colon, prostate and pre-menopausal breast
cancer has recently been reported."
International J Cancer, 2000 Aug, 87:4
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H is for HEART DISEASE
"Milk and milk products gave the highest correlation
coefficient to heart disease, while sugar, animal
proteins and animal fats came in second, third,
and fourth, respectively."
A Survey of Mortality Rates and Food Consumption
Statistics of 24 Countries, Medical Hypothesis
7:907-918, 1981
"For ischemic heart disease, milk carbohydrates were
found to have the highest statistical association for males
aged 35+ and females aged 65+. In the case of coronary
heart disease, non-fat milk was found to have the
highest association for males aged 45+ and females
aged 75+, while for females 65-74, milk carbohydrates
and sugar had the highest associations."
Altern Med Rev, Aug, 3, 1998
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I is for IRON DEFICIENCY

"Cow's milk can cause blood loss from the
intestinal tract, which over time, reduces the
body's iron stores. Blood loss may be a reaction
to cow's milk proteins."
Journal of Pediatrics, 1990, 116
"Cow's milk-induced intestinal bleeding is a
well-recognized cause of rectal bleeding in infancy.
In all cases, bleeding resolved completely after
instituting a cow's milk-free diet."
J Pediatr Surg, 1999 Oct, 34:10
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J is for JUVENILE ILLNESSES
"Chronic diarrhea is the most common gastrointestinal
symptom of intolerance of cow's milk among children...
cow's milk can also cause severe perianal lesions with
pain on defecation and consequent constipation in
young children. In young children, chronic
constipation can be a manifestation of intolerance to
cow's milk."
New England J Med, 1998 Oct, 339:16
"At least 50% of all children in the United States
are allergic to milk, many undiagnosed. Dairy
products are the leading cause of food allergy,
often revealed by constipation, diarrhea, and
fatigue. Many cases of asthma and sinus infections
are reported to be relieved and even eliminated by
cutting out dairy."
Natural Health, July, 1994, Frank Oski, M.D.,
Chief of Pediatrics at Johns Hopkins Medical School
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K is for KILLER BACTERIA
"Milk from cows inoculated with listeria was
pooled for 2 to 4 days and then heated at 162
degrees Fahrenheit for 16 seconds in a
high-temperature, short-time pasteurization unit.
Live listeria bacteria was then successfully
isolated from the milk after heat treatment in
11 of 12 pasteurization trials."
Journal of Environmental Microbiology. July 1987, (53)
"... curing alone may not be a sufficient pathogen
control step to eliminate Salmonella, Listeria, and
E. coli O157:H7 from cheese."
J Food Prot, 1998 Oct, 61:10
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L is for LACTOSE INTOLERANCE
"Overall, about 75 percent of the world's population,
including 25 percent of those in the U.S., lose their
lactase enzymes after weaning."
J. of the American Dietetic Assoc. 1996; 96
"Lactose malabsorption and lactase deficiency are
chronic organic pathologic conditions characterized
by abdominal pain and distention, flatulence, and
the passage of loose, watery stools. Once correct
diagnosis is established, introduction of a lactose-free
dietary regime relieves symptoms in most patients
who remain largely unaware of the relationship
between food intake and symptoms."
J Clin Gastroenterol, 1999 Apr, 28:3
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Executive Director (notmilkman@notmilk.com)
Dairy Education Board
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This file: http://www.notmilk.com/52reasons.txt
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Old 22-Feb-03, 10:08 AM   #11
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...so as you can see the 'alphabet goes to 'L' in my previous post...so here is some more...
52 good reasons to abandon milk and dairy continued...
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M is for MAD COW DISEASE
"The destruction of milk from suspected cows was
recommended in England to insure the public's safety...
Experiments also indicate that temperatures reached
during pasteurization of milk and household cooking
does not kill the agent. In the United Kingtom on
December 1, 1988, the government announced a
ban on the sale of milk from infected cattle..."
Mad Cows and Milkgate, Virgil Hulse, M.D.
"A 24-year-old vegetarian has been diagnosed with
Cruetzfeld-Jacob disease. Scientists fear that milk
and cheese may be the source of infection."
London Times, August 23, 1997 Michael Hornsby
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N is for NASAL CONGESTION
"Allergy to cow's milk proteins has been defined
as any adverse reaction mediated by immunological
mechanisms to one or several of these proteins.
Reactions to cow's milk have been classified
according on their onset as immediate (< 45 min)
or delayed-type (from 2 hours to days). In the
challenge test, 10 hours after milk intake the patient
presented serous rhinorrea, sneezing and nasal
blockade."
J Investig Allergol Clin Immunol, 1998 Jul, 8:4
"Symptoms of milk-protein allergy include cough,
choking, gasping, nose colds, asthma, sneezing
attacks..."
Annals of Allergy, 1951; 9
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O is for OSTEOPOROSIS
"Osteoporosis is caused by a number of things,
one of the most important being too much
dietary protein."
SCIENCE 1986; 233
"Consumption of dairy products, particularly at
age 20 years, were associated with an increased
risk of hip fractures...metabolism of dietary protein
causes increased urinary excretion of calcium."
American Journal of Epidemiology 1994;139
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P is for PESTICIDES AND POLLUTION
"A 1988 FDA survey of milk samples from grocery
stores in 10 cities found that 73% of the samples
contained pesticide residues."
Environmental Contamination and Toxicology, 1991; 47
"The level of dioxin in a single serving of the Ben
& Jerry's World's Best Vanilla Ice Cream tested
was almost 200 times greater than the 'virtually
safe [daily] dose' determined by the
Environmental Protection Agency."
Steve Milloy, author of junkscience.com (Milloy
tested samples of ice cream for dioxins. The only
major newspaper to report the story was the
Detroit Free Press). 11/8/99
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Q is for QUIXOTE SYNDROME
"I have two Lasting impressions. One is that
underestimating Robert Cohen's ability to damage
the dairy industry is a big mistake. The other is a
profound wish that the man was on our side."
American Dairy Farmer Magazine
Oct., 1998, Editorial by Teresa VanWagner
(Robert Cohen is the author of the A-Z list.
More information: www.notmilk.com).
"The colorful NotMilk site delights in describing
milk as a glass of 'pus with hormones and glue.'
Its creator, Robert Cohen, who calls himself the
Not Milk Man, keeps a list of diseases on the
site that he believes are caused by milk."
New York Times Magazine Section,
Sunday, December 24, 2000
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R is for RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS
"Rheumatoid arthritis is more severe than
osteoarthritis, is most common in the hands
and feet, and is characterized by swelling
of joints. Since this type of joint pain can be
a symptom of a food allergy, dietary change
sometimes has a profound effect. Dairy
products, the most common food allergen,
are one likely candidate as a contributing
causative factor."
Vegetarian and Vegan Nutrition by George
Eisman, M.A., M.Sc., R.D.
"In the case of the eight year old female subject,
juvenile rheumatoid arthritis was a milk allergy.
After avoiding dairy products, all pain was
gone in three weeks."
Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine,
1985, 78
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S is for SUDDEN INFANT DEATH
"Hypersensitivity to milk is implicated as a
cause of sudden death in infancy."
The Lancet, vol. 2, 7160, November 19, 1960
"Those who consumed cows milk were fourteen
times more likely to die from diarrhea-related
complications and four times more likely to die
of pneumonia than were breast-fed babies.
Intolerance and allergy to cow's milk products
is a factor in sudden infant death syndrome."
The Lancet, vol. 344, November 5, 1994
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T is for TUBERCULOSIS
"A Mycobacterium bovis-infected dairy herd
of 369 Holstein cows with lactation duration
between 200 and 360 days was tested...
170 cows had positive tuberculin test results,
and 199 had negative results. Cows with
positive test results produced less milk than
did cows with negative test results...In this
herd, tuberculosis was associated with a 4%
decrease in milk production."
J Am Vet Med Assoc, 1998 Sep, 213:6
"Many diseases such as tuberculosis are
transmissible by milk products."
Journal of Dairy Science 1988; 71
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U is for UTERINE & OVARIAN CANCER
"The uterus and ovary, like the breast, are
hormone-sensitive organs. Not surprisingly,
uterine and ovarian cancers are both linked
to fatty diets in epidemiologic studies."
Cancer 1966;19
"IGFs may be important in carcinogenesis,
possibly by increasing the risk of cellular
transformation by enhancing cell turnover.
These emerging epidemiologic data indicate
that high levels of IGF-I are associated with
an increased risk of at least several types of
carcinoma that are common in economically
developed countries."
Horm Res, 1999, 51 Suppl 3
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V is for VITAMIN D-EFICIENCY
"Exposure to sunlight provides most humans
with their vitamin D requirement."
Journal of Nutrition 1996;126(4 Suppl)
"Testing of 42 milk samples found only 12%
within the expected range of Vitamin D
content. Testing of 10 samples of infant
formula revealed seven with more that twice
the Vitamin D content reported on the label,
one of which had more than four times the
label amount. Vitamin D is toxic in overdose."
New England Journal of Medicine, 1992, 326
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W is for WISCOWSINITIS
"I have run into patients who undergo marked
alterations in behavior patterns when ingesting
dairy products, and whose behavior is totally
changed by withholding them."
Letter, Pediatrics 1979;64(5) John J. Murray, M.D.
"These dairymen are organized, they're adamant,
they're militant, and they - they're massing an
enormous amount of money that they're going to
put into political activities, very frankly."
Secretary of the Treasury, John Connally to
President Richard Nixon, from the Watergate
Tapes, March 23, 1971 (after President
Nixon had received a $3 million cash gift
from dairy-industry representatives in the
oval office).
___________________________________
X is for XANTHENE OXIDASE
"Bovine milk is presently under investigation
by this laboratory since it has been shown
that milk antibodies are significantly
elevated in the blood of male patients with
heart disease."
Proceedings of the Society for Experimental
Biology and Medicine, 163: 1981
"Bovine milk xanthene oxidase (BMXO)
may be absorbed and may enter the
cardiovascular system. People with clinical
signs of atherosclerosis have greater
quantities of BMXO antibodies. BMXO
antibodies are found in greater quantities
in those patients who consume the largest
volumes of homogenized milk and milk
products."
The X-O Factor, by Kurt Oster, M.D.,
and Donald Ross, Ph.D.
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Y is for YIN/YANG
"Significant atherosclerosis is rare in peoples whose
diet over the life span is predominantly vegetarian
and low in calories, total lipids, saturated lipids and
cholesterol."
Nutrition and Athersclerosis, by Louis Katz
"Scientific data suggest positive relationships
between a vegetarian diet and reduced risk
for several chronic degenerative diseases and
conditions, including obesity, coronary artery
disease, hypertension, diabetes mellitus, and
some types of cancer."
Journal of the American Dietetic Association,
November 1997, 97(1)
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Z is for ZITS
"Acne is an end-organ hyper-response to
androgens...These data show that sebaceous
glands are stimulated by androgens to varying
degrees and support the theory of an
end-organ response in acne."
British Journal of Dermatology, 1998 Jul, 139:1
"We studied the effects of growth hormone (GH)
and insulin-like growth factors (IGFs), alone and
with androgen, on sebaceous epithelial cell
growth...IGF-I was the most potent stimulus
of DNA synthesis. These data are consistent
with the concept that increases in GH and IGF
production contribute in complementary ways to
the increase in sebum production during puberty."
Endocrinology, 1999 Sep, 140:9, 4089-94
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Additional information in my first post from 'The Food Revolution' by John Robbins.

The cool thing about that anti cow's milk alphabet is that each point has the REFERENCE to it's source unlike a lot of dairy industry claims.
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Old 22-Feb-03, 10:59 AM   #13
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I dont care. I have drank milk for life. It is the nector of life!!
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I'd have to say the 'nectar of disease' would be more accurate.

All one has to do is look at the facts.
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im sorry but i just dont know how much truth there is to alot of those diseases that you mention that milk is the cause of...i think the majority of them that i saw, are predominantly lifestyle problems from things such as sedentary lifetyles, unhealthy eating behaviours, poor exercise, unhealthy habits etc....on the osteo subject it has been shown that resistance training is the most effective for creating dense bones..... i have drank milk all my life and believe it does me good.(touchwood!)....its in the food pyramid (dairy goods), to consume 3 serves (dairy) a day for healthy living!

Back to the original question...lol...yeah sometimes after a protein ill start letting rip! twice as bad if ive had tuna and eggs earlier that day!! hahahaha
i certainly find i have no self control after eating greasy, fatty foods! lol.....i can become a health hazard (to everyone else)!

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