ECA stack? safe for weight loss?

[peargrrrl]

I was wondering about the safety of ECA stacks. Also, I did a search and someone said not to take vit C with it because it would negate the metabolic boost. Is this true? Does this happen with any vit C I take or eat? 'Splain me the grapefruit diet phenomena then?

Anyway, I wanna know all about the theromogenic fat burners, with ephedra or not? safe or not? cheapest way to go? also, when to take? (btw, my bp is fine and I drink a bunch o coffee in the am everyday)

[Lee J B]

I havent not tried an all out just simple ECA stack yet because I can't get all the ingreidiants, I hope this will change rather soon though. However they are proven to work, yes. Thermogenic's do mostly the same as an ECA stack obviously, the vit c thing I have never heard and I dont think it is true. Also, there is a slight danger in an ECA stack, but start with low doses, if you already drink a shed load of coffee then you probably wont get the 'newbie rush' when you first load in the effedrine,caffiene,asprin ... but you will feel a kick, ... rest assured when that kick dies down the fat burning is still going .. that is the mistake people make, they think they need a bigger dose ... you dont. Stay safe.

[heibrin]

The vit C theory is not true, rest assured.

There is ALWAYS a danger with the use of thermogenics, especially when it contains ephedra. The main problem does however lie in misusing ephedrine. Ephedrine is also psychological addictive (not physically though). The so-called 'kick' will put you on a psychological 'high', which people tend to try and prolong unnecessarily. It all comes down to discipline and well-planned usage.

It is also quite important not to use it if you are unfit, since it places strain on the heart to a certain degree. On top of that your workout rate and pace increases a lot, putting even more strain on the body.

I have found the herbal thermogenics to be very much less effective, in some cases useless.
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[Fudomyo]

I *think* they are plenty safe. I love the effect myself. Like coffee but better.

Just check your BP after a week or so, to make sure it's ok.

It's an excellent appetite supressor.

Fudo

[Lee J B]

lol, fudo .. were you not on them for 6 months in a row though ? lol, anyway , how do I check out this blood pressure, surely I can't just request one and then another a week later from the doc's ? Would he not get a bit suspecious ? lol

[Fudomyo]

Every drug store has BP monitors around my parts. Free. You could just tell your Dr. you were taking an ECA and you want to check your BP. It's not illegal. I'm sure he/she would be happy to check it no matter what.

I took them for a long time, never knew my bp was higher. When I discovered that, I stopped. Sniff.

Fudo

[Lee J B]

Fudo, just a question but what wer eyour dosages on the stack ? And what would you recommend someone who has not tried ephedra yet to take ... also when did you take them , once a day ? twice ?

Cheers

[heibrin]

lol, Have you noticed how a cup of coffee seems to be irresistible when you use the eca stack?

The blood pressure issue is quite important-I have seen some nosebleeds from guys who overdid it. Get it checked before you use it, then about 2 weeks later, etc.

Lee, use a lame excuse like a headache when you go to the doctor, and mention that you think it might be because of high blood pressure. He will check it for you. Make use of the same excuse the next time...it does happen you know...lol

[Lee J B]

Nice one thanks heibrin p.s .. check your pm's.

[Fudomyo]

I took 3 (900mg Ephedra), twice a day. 6 total.

I'd start with 1. That had me wired for 18 hrs at first.

[Lee J B]

So how much caffiene ? I'll be using guarna extract ..

So far ... for an ECA NooB I've got ... 1 Tab Ephedra, 1 asprin ... (?) caffiene

[peargrrrl]

Did you add the "c" and the 'a" yourself...how much?....baby aspirin and a cup of coffee?

[Fudomyo]

My bad.

Each capsule of Dymetadrine Xtreme has 300mg Ephedra, 100 caffiene, and 50mg willow bark (aspirin basically).

Fudo

[heibrin]

Lee, get yourself some 'Pro Plus'. One tablet does the job.

Divide your aspirin tablets into quarters. One quarter will do.

As far as the ephedra is concerned, the size of the tablets (or capsules for that matter) varies. I needed to take at least two tabs, but we are not all built the same.

Take some in the morning & about 20 minutes before your workout.

Happy sweating!!

[Lee J B]

Hey bro thanks for that, it's what I was looking for, about the asprin .. divide into quarters? mine are hardly dividable ? lol they are fairly small. Will the guarna extract do for the caffiene ? or is it time to start drinking coffee?