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Old 26-Jun-05, 04:54 PM   #1
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ephedra products for sale online


I found this website selling ephedra containing diet pills online. fitnessone.com
There are two products that have the exact same ingrediets as the Xenadrine RFA-1 had. I ordered the Thermolean capsules...but then I chickened out and cancelled my order. I'm so anxious to see if they work like Xenadrine...and I really miss ephedra...but now with all the hype about it being so bad for you...i'm almost scared to take them now. I feel like i'm gonna drop dead out of nowhere during my workout or something. I did abuse Xenadrine years ago....I would definately be wise about taking it again now w/ all the warnings and what not....but could it be possible that I did permanent damage to my heart back then while taking so much Xenadrine...that now if I were to take it again it might have a seriously adverse health effect on me? Does it sound like i'm overreacting? Somebody try these and lemme know how they work. Oh yea, when you go to the website....go to the drop down menu under "browse categories" and choose ephedra from the list.
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Old 26-Jun-05, 08:29 PM   #2
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Unless you have had heart problems in the past, I don't think you have much to worry about if you follow the guidlines. That said, get plain ephedrine, it will be much cheaper than those diet pills. Combined with caffeine, it is hard to beat.
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Old 27-Jun-05, 06:47 PM   #3
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hmmm, I've always heard not to mix ephedrine w/ caffeine...or is it ephedra? I'll try it though. How much caffiene do you mix it with? Like a cup of coffee or a Mountain Dew? How about a Red Bull?
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Old 28-Jun-05, 12:02 AM   #4
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ephedrine is pharmecutical-grade ephedra.

Studies have shown a 1:10 ratio of ephedrine to caffeine produces the greatest benefit. Personally, I take a Bronkaid tab (25mg ephedrine) and a NoDoz (200mg caffeine).
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Old 28-Jun-05, 09:34 AM   #5
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And does that produce the same effects as Xenadrine RFA-1 would?
1. fearsome energy
2. suppressed appetite
3. thermogenic...fat burner
4. increased metabolic rate

mixed w/ exercise and proper nutrition....you turn into "hotstuff" again?

If so ...then I'm all over that! Where can I buy a bronkaid tab?
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Old 28-Jun-05, 10:51 AM   #6
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Quote:
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And does that produce the same effects as Xenadrine RFA-1 would?
1. fearsome energy
2. suppressed appetite
3. thermogenic...fat burner
4. increased metabolic rate

mixed w/ exercise and proper nutrition....you turn into "hotstuff" again?

If so ...then I'm all over that! Where can I buy a bronkaid tab?
This 'stack' should be plenty to get the same effects that all of the older ephedra based thermogenics gave. It's been used for quite some time since it's so easy to get the ingredients. You can find bronkaid at any decent pharmacy, same goes for the caffeine pills.
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Old 28-Jun-05, 06:37 PM   #7
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ok...one more questions before i go out and buy this stuff....how many times during the day would you take 1 bronkaid, and 1 nodoz? is that a once a day thing....or can you take up to 4 per day to keep the effects going? Thanks for all of your information so far.
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Old 28-Jun-05, 07:11 PM   #8
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I take it three times a day. I don't know of anyone who takes more than that.
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Old 28-Jun-05, 07:24 PM   #9
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awesome! thanx a lot...i just got back from CVS pharmacy...i will be starting on these tomorrow, and I'll let ya'll know how they work out.
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Old 28-Jun-05, 08:57 PM   #10
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i started EC stack 3 days ago, I love it. Broncaid(ephedrine) + Stacker3(caffiene)
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Old 29-Jun-05, 09:06 AM   #11
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Ephedrine acts in a similar way as that of adrenaline. Ephedrine dilates the bronchial muscles, contacts the nasal mucosa, raises the blood pressure and is a cardiac stimulant. Further, ephedrine side effects include psychological side effects such as depression, nervousness, insomnia, and rapid heart rate. When taken in combination with caffeine, ephedrine can over-stimulate the central nervous system, leading to potentially life-threatening results.


I just took my first stack this morning, and I'm already feeling the effects. It takes me back to my Xenadrine days.....please read the above text. Are you guys sure this will be okay to do? (1 brokaid+1nodoz-3xdaily) I shouldn't have any heart problems during strenuous cardiac exercise? I know I took Xenadrine in the past w/out any worries. That was before all of the publicity that ephedra and ephedrine are getting. I know I never had any problems then, somebody just assure me that I should be fine. (I know that the healthy dose of ephedrine for a healthy adult is 100mg daily.) I will only be taking 75mg., but what about mixing it w/ caffeine? Are you sure this is okay?
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Let's just say that it is no more unsafe than the xenadrine you took that had Ephedra in it. Did you ever drink coffee on the xenadrine? This would be the same thing as the EC stack. If you are worried, start slow and see how one dose a day goes at first, then bump it up as needed. This stack is usually also taken with Aspirin. With the increase in blood pressure, aspirin will thin your blood and make it "easier" on your system to pump at this higher level. It's definately a good thought.
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Old 29-Jun-05, 12:00 PM   #13
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: ok, well you got me there. Now that I think about it, I used to drink mountain dew while on Xenadrine....so 1 aspirin a day is okay to take? and correct me if i'm wrong.....1bronkaid+1nodoz....up to 3x per day....and 1 aspirin a day? or 1brokaid+1nodoz+1aspirin....3xdaily? Sorry for all of the questions....this is just a sensitive subject for me. I was so happy and in great shape while taking Xenadrine. And the media has kinda scared me away from it, but I tend to worry a lot anyways. That's why I'm seeking advice from people who have not allowed the media to scare them. Just please correct me on which stack to take as mentioned above....and I will definately ease into it. So far, with all of the research I have been doing on this, I should be fine as long as I don't take any more than maybe 75mg a day, continue to eat, drink plenty of water, and take it in cycles. I was thinking about not taking any on the weekends, and then cycling off of it for about a week after 30 days, then starting back up on it. Does that sound about right, or would any of you do it differently. Once again, I totally do appreciate all of the feedback I am getting from all of you. I'm trying not to ask a lot of stupid questions, I'm just trying to be as clear on this as possible, without misinterpreting any advice. Thanx a lot!
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Old 30-Jun-05, 11:31 AM   #14
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As long as you are being as carefull as you are with it, and educating yourself, you should be fine. It's better to be unsure and play it safe with things like this anyhow. As far as the ECA stack, you would go ahead and take an aspirin each time so, 1bronkaid+1nodoz+1aspirin....3xdaily. As long as the aspirin doesn't upset your stomach, you should be just fine.
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Old 30-Jun-05, 03:19 PM   #15
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aspirin may make the stack better, but all painkillers slow down muscle recovery, making keeping muscle while cutting that much harder...id recomend just using 20-25mg of ephedra and 200mg of caffeine, no aspirin
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