Ephedra vs Ephedrine?

[dana82]

Is there a difference between these 2? Are products with ephedrine as effective as products wuth ephedra? ...this may be stupid to ask but has anyone heard anything about combining ephedrine with aspirin, and caffeine?....I know I posted somethign earlier about clen, don't worry this would never be done at the same time..I"m trying to come up with a cycle for it..the only pills that I can find are ones with ephedrine and not ephedra...any thoughts on this?

[jgriffith]

They are both very similar. That combination you're asking about is called an ECA stack. I believe most people take equal parts of ephedrine and caffeine. That should be good to take after your clen cycle.

[abarlament]

Not equal parts, jgriffith. The ideal dose is 20mg/200mg EC. Most E pills come in 25mg, so most people who make their own stacks take it in a 25/200 ratio.

[jgriffith]

That makes more sense, 20 mg of caffeine is nothing compared to 20 mg of ephedrine.

[dana82]

Is ephedrine illegal? Randomly my friend stopped in a store and they still have it there? It did come 25 mg worth...would the amount of caffein in say green tea be sufficient enough? or do I have to go get caffeine pills?

[jgriffith]

Go with the caffein pills. You can still buy ephedrine HCL for "asthma" haha, however they sell it on body building nutrition sites... guess there are a lot of big guys out there who rely on their puffers.

[lttleangel]

is ephedrine stronger than ephedra?........I know in pills such as xenadrine the ephedra dosage amount was about 335 mg....how does 25 mg of ephedrine compare to 335 of ephedra? will this eca stack be as effective as say xenadrine with ephedra was?
can you buy caffeine pills anywhere besides online?

[Chipperoo]

E/C/A was the basis for most of those weight loss pills and the one that worked the best (mostly substituted white willow bark for aspirin which had same effect). Hardly any work as well now that it is banned (you're not gonna' start believing all their advertising BS are ya' ?). Ephedrine is still legal, whereas diet supps containing ephedra is what is banned. Always was best and cheaper to make your own stack and still is. You can get caffiene pills anywhere, I get mine from walmart (store brand *cheap*)

[dicepa2003]

You all have probably figured this out already...but for those who haven't you can still buy stackers and other ephredra products off websites based in other countries ie. The UK, Germany. Just a heads'up if ya care.

[stihl]

I thought Ephedrine was the chemical version of ephedra made for asthma patients??

Anyhow I take a 75mg/600mg stack twice a day.It took me 2 weeks to get up there.You may notice some shaking at first but it will go away.
The 75mg/600mg stack does nothing for me now some im moving over to clen.
I would rather try something different then up the doasage on the ephedrine.

Should I cycle off the ephedrine slowly over a weekly period?

[Chipperoo]

Originally Posted by stihl

I take a 75mg/600mg stack twice a day.It took me 2 weeks to get up there.You may notice some shaking at first but it will go away.

That's what I call willing to do anything to lose fat :

No, I'm not going to notice any shaking 'cause I'm not gonna take 3 times the recommended dosage and twice the daily recommended dosage. But hey, it's a free country so shake away
Maybe you should try some DNP, and while you're at it maybe, I don't know....triple the dosage others use?

[stihl]

WOW...sounds like a plan.I may just run out and do that!!!
thank you so much for the advice. *finger*

[swanem]

75/600??? Holy Crap! I've been an ECA user for almost 10yrs now and I would NEVER do a 75/600 stack (anymore). Just not prudent.

There's a good site in my sig on "E".

[dana82]

I think I"m just going to stick with the 200 caffeine, 25 ephedrine...is that safe for a girl? Has anyone tried both this and xenadrine or hydroxy? I was wondering which worked better?
thnx

[swanem]

I've really done it all, from my home brew ECA stack to Xenadrine, to Hydroxy, to ripped fuel, to ECA by nutra sport. Right now I'm doing the home brew ECA and I like it. Sam's club asprin ($4) Equate caffeine ($3) and Vaspro Ephedrine 25mg ($8). If you take it once a day that is about $5 a month as opposed to $10 from any of the others. If you don't want a home brew, then go with the Nurtasport if you can find it. I liked it the best.

Stick with the 25/200/325, any more than that you're hurting not helping. It will give you the jitters and dry mouth (on an empty stomach), but it should do that with everyone. If it dosen't, take the weekend off and start again a couple of days later.