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Old 22-Mar-03, 10:48 PM   #1
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Gaba Complex... Ripped off?


I heard that taking Gaba can make you sleep better... Since I am an insomniac I bought Gaba from the store. I took two and then later took five and upon arriving at home I checked reviews online for the second time. It stated at least 2g of Gaba is needed to be affective... I looked on the bottle I bought and it only contains 200mg of Gaba and the rest is just simple Vitamin-B... What a ripoff...

I bought it from "Vitamin World" at the mall. I am pretty pissed off and I was wondering if anyone has had experience with this place. I really want to return the pills even though I already took five (out of 100).
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Old 22-Mar-03, 11:33 PM   #2
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I return stuff to Vitamin World all the time. Make sure you have the receipt. Bring it back and they'll give a full refund.

Fugget GABA, if you can't sleep, take a shot of Nyquil. You'll be out before you get to your bed....
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Old 22-Mar-03, 11:37 PM   #3
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I used to do that and it didn't work that well for me. I also have a very horrible experience with Nyquil and Haldol (Anti-psychotic)... *shudder*
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Old 22-Mar-03, 11:56 PM   #4
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Simply sleep works. It's made by Tylenol. Or, there's another.... oh heck, what's it called? It's an herb. Malotonin, something like that. I've heard that works well too, but I use simply sleep. I too am a chronic insomniac
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Old 23-Mar-03, 01:19 AM   #5
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So am I and I've tried all of those. Two things have worked: prescription drugs (Ambien, and the hallucinations weren't worth it), and weed.

Illegal it is, and also extremely effective also.
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Old 23-Mar-03, 08:43 PM   #6
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Melatonin is produced naturally by the body at night. (Which explains why our cycles are so important to us when we wake and sleep on a regular schedule, and why 3rd shift is tough). It is a hormone derived from seratonin, but it's triggered by the darkness and produced at night. Trying to sleep during the day, or dawn hours, or in lighted rooms impede your body's natural production. We respond very much to light (it affects our moods as well as vitamin synthesis) and we respond to darkness (such as this and other hormones). It's produced in our pineal gland.

You can purchase it at most health food stores, and many reports indicate that it may produce vivid dreams but many people are quite happy with the depth of sleep they are able to achieve.

Ambien and sonata (sp?) are sleeping pills and despite some negative controversy, they're reportedly on the safer side. Most OTC sleep aids are nothing more than benadryl or a derivative, and you'll quite often spend the first 12 hours of your next morning feeling groggy and sleepy.

Ambien and sonata (sp?) do not have this side effect. There are dozens of Rx pills available.

There are a variety of herbal teas that report to help with sleep as well, and herbs (pills, tinctures, etc.) such as valerian root, kava kava, chamomile, etc.

For some people, a shot of whiskey works well too.

Sake.

If you do not drink alcohol, a very tiny amount will help relax you (but I don't advertise getting soused to try and catch some shut eye)

Not eating 3-4 hours before bed. Cutting out the caffeine (at least no more than 200mg per day, with none consumed after 12pm....caffeine has a half life of 12 hours and is cumulative, physiologically speaking). Spicy foods can also keep you awake.

Stress reduction, music, massage, sex, relaxation techniques, having no lights in your room except for candle light for the final 2-3 hours before you go to bed, nothing to "stimulate" you 2-3 hours before bed (ie: computer, TV, exciting movies, arguments, family "discussions," etc.).

There are a lot of things to try.

But I'm with you, believe me. I go through stages where no matter what I try, natural or not, to try and get sleep, I can have some nasty periods from as little as a day to a few months, where I just cannot sleep or sleep soundly, so I do understand.

Try your best not to nap and maintain your regular schedule, at least within one hour, even on weekends.

Well,....there's a list for ya!

Good luck.
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Old 24-Mar-03, 02:56 AM   #7
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Alcohol used to work for me very well; but when I reached the age of 18 it seemed to start doing the opposite.

I took 9mg of Melatonin (Nature's Bounty) and it didn't seem to help. I will try again tonight to see if I notice a difference.

Being "relaxed" isn't really possible for me unless I smoke marijuana. Which I won't be able to do for quite some time. When I did it helped me sleep very well; and even if I couldn't sleep it made things more enjoyable... less bipolar episodes. That is, unless I felt guilty. For me guilt + marijuana = bad.

Sex helps me relax but I always feel more awake after. I have heard good things about kava kava so I will try that.

Napping is very close to impossible for me, so no problem there.

Thanks for all the suggestions... Must find sleep!
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Old 10-Sep-04, 03:00 PM   #8
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GABA works for me


I did not sleep for 2 nites, last night I fell asleep like falling backwards down a well. I am talking dream sequences that went on for hours.

Only thing that woke me was my daughter who yelps each nite.

Me likes GABA, I only noticed it when I put my head on the pillow, not before.
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