GNC weight gainer 1850 or 2220

[getaway]

what are you views on this? has anyone used this before?

[maverick]

Way too much sugar, weight gainers are pretty much never the answer. If you want to add quality calories with little filler or chewing, try adding some oils to your diet.

[rab91787]

I'm currently on Universal's Real Gains and am liking it. A good 800 calorie 78g protein shake after a workout is helping me pack on some mass I wouldn't worry about the sugar if you have a good diet otherwise. I don't eat or drink anything surgary anywhere else in my diet. My weight gainer shake only has 5g in it, so if sugar content is something you are worried about there is always a wide variety of choices and you're bound to find something to fit your needs.

GL bro :

[getaway]

okay, then what can i do if i want to stay lean but add on muscle mass on the same time?

[rab91787]

Don't take in as many calories... you will sacrifice some muscle mass gain ,though. The thing most people do is just eat enough calories to pack on as much mass as they have the potential to and with that comes some added bf%. But, the more muscle mass you put on, the easier it will be to burn that extra fat off when you go to cut. More muscle mass = more calories burned.

[getaway]

so what does that mean, do i eat like crazy for a while to build muscle mass then start cutting?

[rab91787]

You "eat like crazy" compared to a diet... but you don't want to over do it. Everyone has different needs in terms of nutrition so I can't really tell you how much you need to eat. But yeah, you eat plenty to put on a lot of mass and whenever you want to lose some of the bf% you cut.

[dressed4it]

I always thought it was easier to gain muscle than lose fat? Wouldn't it make more sense to eat just as much as you need to gain muscle but not fat? Doesn't fat gain indicate excessive calorie consumption?

[getaway]

i dont think so, cuz mostly all high calorie foods that ive come across with contain high fat, so yeaa..

[rab91787]

Originally Posted by dressed4it

I always thought it was easier to gain muscle than lose fat? Wouldn't it make more sense to eat just as much as you need to gain muscle but not fat? Doesn't fat gain indicate excessive calorie consumption?

The more muscle mass you have the easier it is to lose the fat. Those Bowflex commercials aren't BS'ing you afterall.

You can figure out how much you need to eat to just gain muscle and not fat but most people believe you will be sacrificing some muscle gains so we just eat enough to show we are putting weight on the scale and then just cut. Excessive calorie consumption is necessary to put on as much muscle as you have the potential for with weight training.

[maverick]

Originally Posted by dressed4it

I always thought it was easier to gain muscle than lose fat?

Its much HARDER to gain muscle than it is to lose fat. On an average year for an average person training hard and eating right, you would see an average gain of around 10 pounds in muscle. On the other hand if you were overweight and focused on weight loss, you could "safely" lose around 100 pounds in a year.

Originally Posted by dressed4it

Wouldn't it make more sense to eat just as much as you need to gain muscle but not fat?

Show me the calculator that plugs into the back of my neck and tells me exactly how calories of which macronutrients at what time of day I need to gain only muscle and no fat and I'll be the first to use it. Til that exists, eating big is the best way for a natural trainee to ensure that as much possible musle mass is gained.

Originally Posted by dressed4it

Doesn't fat gain indicate excessive calorie consumption?

So does muscle gain.

[Maxgain]

Originally Posted by dressed4it

Wouldn't it make more sense to eat just as much as you need to gain muscle but not fat?

Indeed it would so what is that figure for you noting it will change daily

[F_Mac]

Originally Posted by dressed4it

I always thought it was easier to gain muscle than lose fat? Wouldn't it make more sense to eat just as much as you need to gain muscle but not fat? Doesn't fat gain indicate excessive calorie consumption?

It would seem that simple wouldn't it? And, well, it is, however most people cannot nail down exactly what their bodies need on a daily basis, especially since it will also fluctuate on a daily basis. So those concerned primarily with gaining mass will tend to consume an excess of calories to ensure they are not sacrificing muscle gains, this usually leads to a bit of fat gain as well.