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Old 14-Jul-07, 05:35 AM   #1
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Great Pump...Glycerin?


In a book called "Get the Pump" there is a feature in the that mentions that glycerin USP produces a phenomenal pump but tastes gross. If you take 50 mls and down 20 ounzes of water an hour before your workout you should get a great pump. Has anyone tried this?!
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Old 22-Jul-07, 02:24 PM   #2
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Not heard of it even, but a few reps more will give a pump to
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Old 18-Aug-07, 06:32 PM   #3
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And we have to consider that muscle pump and muscle growth aren't the same thing.

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Old 19-Aug-07, 03:17 PM   #4
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No muscle growth is from hard training and correct diet, pump is taking muscle to limit.
Although different, but both contribute to growth
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Old 19-Aug-07, 05:15 PM   #5
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That's right, muscle pump is a result of working the muscles hard.

But, your focus shouldn't be on muscle pump, it should be on moving the weights, and moving progressively more over time. Muscle pump is typically short lived. If your focus is on "pumping" the muscles, you could miss the real point of being in the gym. I could pump my muscles using really light weight, but my goal isn't to look like Richard Simmons

A muscle pump supplement may be just superficial, as muscle pump isn't muscle gain. But, perhaps a muscle pump supplement could help in the long run with muscle growth in some way? I don't know?

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Old 21-Aug-07, 08:11 PM   #6
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Muscle pump is beneficial to muscle gain because the longer the surge of blood retains in the muscle, the more likely nutrients are able to be utilized at a heightened state. Some people just like the pump feeling but there is a relevant purpose to it.
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Old 22-Aug-07, 02:02 PM   #7
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Gooseneck is correct.

The only possible advantage of the pump is the increased blood flow to the are and thus an increased nutrient partitioning effect.

It is no way however a measure of workout success and definatly not of microtraume experienced
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Old 22-Aug-07, 03:19 PM   #8
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Sorry to blow yr ship out of the water, but the muscle is in 24 hr supply of blood and all required nutrients will arrive and be used in co ordination to the bodies requirements, so i believe the pump is just a body sign of saying im being taken to the max.
But i do apreciate all yr views
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Sorry to blow yr ship out of the water, but the muscle is in 24 hr supply of blood and all required nutrients will arrive and be used in co ordination to the bodies requirements, so i believe the pump is just a body sign of saying im being taken to the max.
But i do apreciate all yr views
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I agree that the muscle gets a high nutrient supply trhoughout the day and I do not hold much value to a pump from a supplement my point was that any possible benefit will be a nutrient partitioning one.
I do however disagree with it being a sign of it beeen taken to the max. I can ahieve a pump with very little effort
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Old 23-Aug-07, 11:44 AM   #10
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Max i did not intend sinking yr ship Mr, Just my opinion and i do appreciate your views and actually take alot you say on board.
In my case i need high rep to get real good pump or pyramid the weights
Keep up with good comments
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Old 16-Sep-07, 11:52 PM   #11
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My rep scheme in the main is 5-7 reps, with the exception of a few exercises. Muscle pump occurs at this rep level too. I try to stay away from "feel the burn" and trying to get a "muscle pump."

I try to stay focused on just moving the weight.

Muscle pump will occur automatically, no need to focus on it.

Remember, if you are in the gym to get bigger and stronger, moving progressively more weight is where the focus should be.

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Old 19-Sep-07, 06:48 PM   #12
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If you've done your homework in the kitchen (supplied your body with the right types and amounts of nutrients), and you are able to put out the required intensity during your sets, then you'll get a crazy ass pump no matter what. I get a massive pump no matter what rep range I do. Whether it be 4-6 reps or higher.

Point is, as long as you're doing more in the gym than you did last session for that body part (ie: more reps within a given rep range, or more weight) you are going to stimulate new gains. The pump will automatically be associated with a kick ass set performed.

But there are two different means of getting a pump. One way is associated with stimulate growth during the set, the other is not. By this I mean, on one hand I could pick up a 10 lb dumbbell and do bicep curls for 50 reps per arm while picking my nose with the other hand. Yes, I will get a pump, but I have most likely done little in the way of stimulating new muscle growth.

On the other hand, I could pick up a 50 pound d-bell and get 6 solid reps using a huge amount of intensity during this set right from the get-go. I'll also experience a pump from this set. NOW, which set do you think actually stimulated growth? Of course, the heavier set I did.

So no, you shouldn't just strive for a pump by going light and doing a zillion reps....but on the other hand, you should be experiencing a damn good pump if you're working intensely with heavy weight and you've done everything right nutrition wise (water intake, carb/protein intake, creatine supplementation, etc). If you've got your nutrition down pat, you're going to experience a pump right away...even in your warm-up sets.

If you're working the muscle correctly during working sets, your targeted muscle group should be pumped beyond belief. Usually, I feel like my chest, arms, quads...or whatever I am working that day are going to explode through my skin. This is how I know I've got my nutrient intake and training intensity/stimulus where it should be for big gains.

If I don't get that pump while going heavy, then I know something ain't right. Either my diet, water intake, CNS, whatever...and it is time for me to do some thinking on what's going on here.
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