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Old 21-Sep-03, 04:49 PM   #1
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there has been some talk about 1-ad. im thinking of using it and i could care less about any of the side effects, except for the hair loss. does anyone know the truth about this. Ive heard places that its act. on your mothers side. im 20 and not currently noticing any hair loss, however my mom's uncle and my moms father are both bald. my father and his father have(had) full heads of hair. does anyone know the seriousness of hairloss with this type of product b/c the last thing i need is to lose hair at 20. also, does anyone know the truth about the hairloss gene?
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Old 21-Sep-03, 05:48 PM   #2
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NOBODY in in my family has hairloss. I shed like a freaking dog 2 -3 weeks into the cycle. I finally got it under control for the most part, but I still think I mayb be losing hair faster than I was before.

It is a fact that 1AD can make you bald faster if you are predisposed to it. It raises your DHT levels signifcantly.
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Old 21-Sep-03, 07:02 PM   #3
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If you are genetically predisposed to hairloss, you're ****ed. No amount of follicle treatment, Nioxin or Rogain is going to help. Trust me on this. I lost most of my hair by the time I was 22 because of genetic predisposition, and I once had some thick hair. This occured purely from genetics, for I had never juiced or even used androstendione (which was the only ph available at the time). With that said, 1AD will just speed up the process so I would enjoy your hair while you still have it. As a side note, most hairloss treatments are ripoffs, but Propecia may actually work if you start it immediately when you start thinning.
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Old 23-Sep-03, 09:13 AM   #4
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You can inherit hairloss from either side of your family, it's a myth that you can only get from your mother's side.

1ad or 1test will only make your hair fall out if it was going to fall out eventually anway, it just speeds up the process.

You could use propecia or proscar if you're worried

Or use a pro hormone/steroid that turns into Nandralone and not testosterone, such as Nordial.

Dont use proscar or propecia if you're going to use a nandralone precursor though (nordiol or noraderm) Use Minoxidil or Spiro or both instead

Or Minoxidil/Azelaic Acid combo AM +Pm and spiro PM

Nizoral shampoo can help too

But if it hasn't done anything in a few months give up and just go bald gracefully

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Old 11-Oct-03, 07:42 PM   #5
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You can inherit hairloss from either side of your family, it's a myth that you can only get from your mother's side.

1ad or 1test will only make your hair fall out if it was going to fall out eventually anway, it just speeds up the process.

You could use propecia or proscar if you're worried

Or use a pro hormone/steroid that turns into Nandralone and not testosterone, such as Nordial.

Dont use proscar or propecia if you're going to use a nandralone precursor though (nordiol or noraderm) Use Minoxidil or Spiro or both instead

Or Minoxidil/Azelaic Acid combo AM +Pm and spiro PM

Nizoral shampoo can help too

But if it hasn't done anything in a few months give up and just go bald gracefully



Hey....I am using Propecia now....does that mean I cant take nordiol?
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Old 12-Oct-03, 05:13 AM   #6
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I won't pretend I'm an expert on this This is how it was explained to me, I'm still not sure about the science but I've seen a lot of people saying don't use them together.

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Both Testosterone and Nandrolone are effected by 5-alpha reductase enzyme, which changes Testosterone to Dihydrotestosteron(DHT) and Nandrolone to Dihydronandrolone(DHN). DHT is much more androgenic then Testosterone, in scalp and prostate, and by binding to receptor sites in hair follicules, causes hairloss. On a contrary, DHN is much less androgenic in same organs, and is, probably, the least androgenic of all steroids, while it keeps its anabolic properties.

Finasteride(Proscar, Propecia) is 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, meaning, it binds to the enzyme and prevent it from effecting the hormone(steroid)
In case of Testosterone, it's good, because it's preventing milder steroid from conversion to more harmful one.
In case of Nandrolone, it's bad, because it prevents stronger androgen from conversion to weaker one

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