HGH - Does it really work?

[Skuba]

I've been hearing a lot about HGH and its benefits. I am also concerned about the side effects.
In terms of building muscle mass, are the results really noticeable?
Please, give your feedback.
Thanks

[Skuba]

Is it safer than taking Andro stuff?

[Melt Down]

Yes it works and there are alot of fakes out on the market research like I did and you will find the best Klatz/Goldman Designed. Anti-AgingNews.com has the info

It works better in older lifters whose natural GH is declining. There are a great deal of sides associate with GH use (look at Ronnie Coleman's gut). By itself, it isn't a great mass builder so most lifters use it in conjunction with a steroid cycle. Very expensive, and it has a high cost to gains ratio.

[Skuba]

Ok. I am not a bodybuilder. I won't take any steroid. I have been working out for years, always takin some supplements like MRPs, Protein, Creatine, and other stuff.
I was wondering if taking one of those GH stimulants will help me get an upgrade in my muscle mass, that the other supplements are not being able to.
Also, I am not Old. I am 27.

[Melt Down]

Here are the facts:

Dr. Ronald Klatz, President of the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine (A4M), and 1,100 research physicians and scientists in 30 countries, have performed studies involving HGH replacement therapy. Dr. Klatz, "The reality for 76 million will be an average life span in excess of 100 years with unexpectedly good health, so much so, in fact, that you will scarcely be able to tell a fit and active 65 year-old from a healthy and athletic 100 year-old."


Over 4,000 physicians worldwide belong to the A4M and have published information and research articles and books related to the effect that low production of HGH is a primary cause of the body’s aging. Returning production levels of HGH back to that of our youth can bring sensational increases in health and vitality.


There is no need to wait until you are a senior citizen to enjoy the benefits of HGH replacement. In fact there is every reason to believe it is better to start at a much younger age when the levels of your own hormone have already begun to decline. Dr. Eve Van Cauter, a human growth hormone researcher at the University of Chicago Medical Center, says, "All of these ideas about treating people with growth hormone have been directed toward people 65 and older. If you look at the data, people have so-called 'elderly' levels by age 40. Perhaps we should be giving human growth hormone replacement therapy earlier rather than attempting to treat tissues that have seen little or no growth hormone for decades." (Grow Young With HGH, Dr. Ronald Klatz,)


Dr. Klatz also states that those people in their 30's can take HGH supplements to keep their own bodily supply of HGH from decreasing. Those in their 40's, 50's, and even older can also benefit from taking supplements that stimulate their body to increase it's own release of HGH.




HUMAN GROWTH FACTORS: SIX QUESTIONS & ANSWERS by Dr. Ronald Klatz


1. What are human growth factors?


Human growth factors are any chemical in the body such as thyroid hormone, testosterone, estrogen, human growth hormone and Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), that helps regulate growth modulation and repair so that cells retain more youthful functioning and metabolism.


2. Why can human growth factors help slow the degenerative effects of aging?


Anti-aging experts propose that growth factors within the body are responsible for optimizing cellular repair as well as replacement mechanisms, for keeping metabolism young, active and efficient in replacing old cells that have lost optimal function.


3. How are human growth factors different from HGH?


HGH is the most abundant hormone made by the pituitary gland and is a molecule comprised of 191 amino acids (pre-protein building blocks).


Starting at age 20 or so, HGH levels begin to decline about 14 percent each decade so that by the time we are 65, half of us have little or no HGH. The decline of HGH is accompanied by many of the miseries we associate with aging, from saggy skin, to potbellies, to a lack of vitality.


The most recent research shows that despite what aging does to cause the decline of HGH, it is not irreparable, and it is not permanent. To properly restore HGH levels, injectable HGH, available only by prescription when medically indicated, is administered under the strict supervision of qualified physicians.


4. How is human growth factor different from "HGH secretagogues" and "HGH booster" products?


HGH secretagogues purport to function as combination HGH stimulant and releasing compounds. These generally contain a combination of amino acids, other nutrients, and in some cases, proprietary peptides designed to enhance the pituitary's ability to release HGH.


Do not be fooled by misleading promises of "youth in a bottle" offered by fly-by-night marketers. Choose a product that is based on cutting-edge, anti-aging nutritional science. Amino acid secretagogues that are manufactured by companies, such as (The Product Name I USE, so no one can say I'm trying to SELL ANYTHING!), committed to rigorous scientific quality control, constant review and improvement are valid forms of HGH increasing therapy.


5. Is there study data available on human growth factors?


A prospective controlled study, taking place from August to December 2001, enrolled 30 adults in a 30-day and 60-day evaluation programs. Results are published by Marcelo Suarez, MD (Principal Investigator), Lynn Gu, MA, MBA (Research Coordinator), in the article "Biometric Analysis of Controlled Clinical Study for Growth Factor Formulation on Multiple Parameters of Aging- Related Dysfunctions" published by High Tech Research Institute, Chicago IL, March 1, 2002.


6. What were key findings of the study?


Significant improvements across treatment were observed in 87 percent of the subjects in the first 10 weeks of the protocol:


* The supplement therapy resulted in a mean reduction in fat mass of approximately 3.03 kilograms. The most important anatomical change occurred in the abdominal region.


* The most significant reported enhanced factor was related to energy level. Active treatment was associated with improvement in the energy levels and emotional aspects, with 61 percent of the subjects noting mood improvement.


* Sleep efficiency and sleep latency both improved during treatment. Many of the subjects tested have displayed a significant increase in both testosterone and DHEA levels. On the completion day for both programs, the average DHEA level of subjects was 406 percent greater than their baseline levels. In men, testosterone averaged an increase of 392 percent on the completion day.


* The majority of subjects reported skin texture or elasticity change. Improved cases showed a global enhancement in fine lines, coarse facial wrinkling and tactile roughness. Some 32 percent of the subjects demonstrated slight to moderate skin texture improvement by the end of the study.


The results of this study and the many others being conducted today are quickly converting the skeptics to a new understanding that many conditions previously associated with aging are, in fact, disease processes of impaired metabolism and can be treated with advanced HGF-endocrine intervention. Anti-aging medicine and the subsequent advances in the treatment of age-related disorders will remain in the public mind as long as people refuse to grow old gracefully. Though the use of HGH seems promising as an anti-aging treatment, it is only the tip of an iceberg ushering in a new reality of an ageless society in which 75 years-old is considered middle age.

I know what it has done for me and my peers have saw the physical change from bad fat to lean and mean the proof is in the pudding... And I tried alot of the fake products as well I would suggest an Isotonic Supplement as well Isotonic Digestive Enzyme for the large amounts of protein you might be taking.

[JD03]

Melt: Does your name happen to be Ronald Klatz?

[Lee J B]

Good info all around here, I wanna back up Ironman's and Melt Downs post specifically, good info guys. All I was going to say was that I know you have to take it for an incredibly long time to see results like you might on a different cycle....someone I know on a different board is going to do a 5month sprint of GH....wish I had his job huh.

[Maxima]

Originally Posted by Melt Down

Here are the facts:

Dr. Ronald Klatz, President of the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine (A4M), and 1,100 research physicians and scientists in 30 countries, have performed studies involving HGH replacement therapy. Dr. Klatz, "The reality for 76 million will be an average life span in excess of 100 years with unexpectedly good health, so much so, in fact, that you will scarcely be able to tell a fit and active 65 year-old from a healthy and athletic 100 year-old."


Over 4,000 physicians worldwide belong to the A4M and have published information and research articles and books related to the effect that low production of HGH is a primary cause of the body’s aging. Returning production levels of HGH back to that of our youth can bring sensational increases in health and vitality.


There is no need to wait until you are a senior citizen to enjoy the benefits of HGH replacement. In fact there is every reason to believe it is better to start at a much younger age when the levels of your own hormone have already begun to decline. Dr. Eve Van Cauter, a human growth hormone researcher at the University of Chicago Medical Center, says, "All of these ideas about treating people with growth hormone have been directed toward people 65 and older. If you look at the data, people have so-called 'elderly' levels by age 40. Perhaps we should be giving human growth hormone replacement therapy earlier rather than attempting to treat tissues that have seen little or no growth hormone for decades." (Grow Young With HGH, Dr. Ronald Klatz,)


Dr. Klatz also states that those people in their 30's can take HGH supplements to keep their own bodily supply of HGH from decreasing. Those in their 40's, 50's, and even older can also benefit from taking supplements that stimulate their body to increase it's own release of HGH.




HUMAN GROWTH FACTORS: SIX QUESTIONS & ANSWERS by Dr. Ronald Klatz


1. What are human growth factors?


Human growth factors are any chemical in the body such as thyroid hormone, testosterone, estrogen, human growth hormone and Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), that helps regulate growth modulation and repair so that cells retain more youthful functioning and metabolism.


2. Why can human growth factors help slow the degenerative effects of aging?


Anti-aging experts propose that growth factors within the body are responsible for optimizing cellular repair as well as replacement mechanisms, for keeping metabolism young, active and efficient in replacing old cells that have lost optimal function.


3. How are human growth factors different from HGH?


HGH is the most abundant hormone made by the pituitary gland and is a molecule comprised of 191 amino acids (pre-protein building blocks).


Starting at age 20 or so, HGH levels begin to decline about 14 percent each decade so that by the time we are 65, half of us have little or no HGH. The decline of HGH is accompanied by many of the miseries we associate with aging, from saggy skin, to potbellies, to a lack of vitality.


The most recent research shows that despite what aging does to cause the decline of HGH, it is not irreparable, and it is not permanent. To properly restore HGH levels, injectable HGH, available only by prescription when medically indicated, is administered under the strict supervision of qualified physicians.


4. How is human growth factor different from "HGH secretagogues" and "HGH booster" products?


HGH secretagogues purport to function as combination HGH stimulant and releasing compounds. These generally contain a combination of amino acids, other nutrients, and in some cases, proprietary peptides designed to enhance the pituitary's ability to release HGH.


Do not be fooled by misleading promises of "youth in a bottle" offered by fly-by-night marketers. Choose a product that is based on cutting-edge, anti-aging nutritional science. Amino acid secretagogues that are manufactured by companies, such as (The Product Name I USE, so no one can say I'm trying to SELL ANYTHING!), committed to rigorous scientific quality control, constant review and improvement are valid forms of HGH increasing therapy.


5. Is there study data available on human growth factors?


A prospective controlled study, taking place from August to December 2001, enrolled 30 adults in a 30-day and 60-day evaluation programs. Results are published by Marcelo Suarez, MD (Principal Investigator), Lynn Gu, MA, MBA (Research Coordinator), in the article "Biometric Analysis of Controlled Clinical Study for Growth Factor Formulation on Multiple Parameters of Aging- Related Dysfunctions" published by High Tech Research Institute, Chicago IL, March 1, 2002.


6. What were key findings of the study?


Significant improvements across treatment were observed in 87 percent of the subjects in the first 10 weeks of the protocol:


* The supplement therapy resulted in a mean reduction in fat mass of approximately 3.03 kilograms. The most important anatomical change occurred in the abdominal region.


* The most significant reported enhanced factor was related to energy level. Active treatment was associated with improvement in the energy levels and emotional aspects, with 61 percent of the subjects noting mood improvement.


* Sleep efficiency and sleep latency both improved during treatment. Many of the subjects tested have displayed a significant increase in both testosterone and DHEA levels. On the completion day for both programs, the average DHEA level of subjects was 406 percent greater than their baseline levels. In men, testosterone averaged an increase of 392 percent on the completion day.


* The majority of subjects reported skin texture or elasticity change. Improved cases showed a global enhancement in fine lines, coarse facial wrinkling and tactile roughness. Some 32 percent of the subjects demonstrated slight to moderate skin texture improvement by the end of the study.


The results of this study and the many others being conducted today are quickly converting the skeptics to a new understanding that many conditions previously associated with aging are, in fact, disease processes of impaired metabolism and can be treated with advanced HGF-endocrine intervention. Anti-aging medicine and the subsequent advances in the treatment of age-related disorders will remain in the public mind as long as people refuse to grow old gracefully. Though the use of HGH seems promising as an anti-aging treatment, it is only the tip of an iceberg ushering in a new reality of an ageless society in which 75 years-old is considered middle age.

I know what it has done for me and my peers have saw the physical change from bad fat to lean and mean the proof is in the pudding... And I tried alot of the fake products as well I would suggest an Isotonic Supplement as well Isotonic Digestive Enzyme for the large amounts of protein you might be taking.

In the Training thread you question my knowledge and Cursor warned you to do your homework before you bash members of this forum (me), to which you reply, if you can't stand the heat don't get in the kitchen.

So here I find you again, wow your trying to sell this crap in every thread, if you still claim that you are not, why are these the only posts you have ever made at this forum?

HGH therapy does work, in injectible form (you can see my write up on this in the training, or nutrition thread under this guy's posts.) I have no doubts about those claims because they are true, but injectable form is the only thing that has been proven to work.

Average HGH secretions by age:

At 20 years old we average 500 micrograms/day
At 40 years old we average 200 micrograms/day
At 80 years old we average 25 micrograms/day

Again this is for the average person who does not exercise. Any one who has ever looked into aging knows that the symptoms of aging are not well established because it is hard to separate whether those symptoms are a natural cause of aging, or because as people get older they become inactive. I am sure Cursor can attest to this as there are numerous studies of those who are inactive at 20 having higher aging associated characteristics (low hormone, bone density, muscle) then people who are highly active at age 50+. Why in the world someone would advise an active individual who exercises regularly to start hormone replacement without first diagnosing them as hormone deficient is beyond me.

On to the Dr.'s questions:

1. True
2. True, for the injectable form, not what you’re selling (again for further detail see my post in the other threads)
3. For the most part True, however to say that the drastic declining levels of HGH and the occurrence of pot bellies etc. is a natural part of the aging process has not been confirmed, inactivity as you age is what causes these things. VERY TRUE, only injectable HGH has been shown to be effective.
4. Very good, "purport" as in intended, or implied, this is theory not fact!
5. A study of 30 people??, for 30-60days?? with no control (placebo) group??, and no list of protocol (daily activity, diet changes, drug therapies etc.)?? Wow I can't imagine why it didn't make it into a peer-reviewed journal. I cannot back up this study because #1 the amount of subjects tested is laughable for a research based test, #2 the time length is ridiculous, #3 I do not know what habits were changed that could be the reason for the reduction in body fat, or improved levels of testosterone (which exercise could both account for) #4 I cannot take the subjects confessions of better sleep, higher energy levels, better skin elasticity as fact because there was no control group (placebo effect) so it is hard to say if this is in their minds because they think it should happen, or because of the supplementation to which the report does not say whether it is the stuff you are trying to sell For all anyone knows it could be injectable HGH.

My question is why did they not measure IGF-1 levels to determine if the HGH supplementation was working?

IGF-1 stands for Insulin-like Growth Factor 1. IGF-1 is also known as Somatomedin-C. As important as HGH is, it does not last long in our bloodstream. In just a few short minutes our liver absorbs HGH and converts it into growth factors. IGF-1 is the most important growth factor that is produced. So, IGF-1 is a hormone just like HGH, but it is easier to measure in the body because it stays in our bloodstream longer than HGH. You can think of HGH as the hormone that gets the ball rolling, but IGF-1 does most of the work.

Maxima, I'm liking you more and more. lol

[Steve]

Originally Posted by IronMan

Maxima, I'm liking you more and more. lol

uh - oh!

[jay`]

Originally Posted by Steve

uh - oh!

LOL

Don't get jealous Steve, you are still my favorite! Bwahahahahaha!

[Magwheels]

Don't know anything about this product- rHGH but they do mention "clinical studies".

[Shredded]

I've never heard anything good about HGH secretagogues from people,they sounded good when they hit the market but like everything that doesn't live up to the hype they're fading out