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Old 16-Aug-02, 03:03 PM   #1
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Im Fat, getting started.


Quick background info: Im 5'9" 220lbs, and have a bmi in the 40's.

Just found this forum and was hoping you guys could give me some sound advice. I've been reading alot of fitness and health type stuff, and everyone has a different opinion, but there seems to be a few things that everyone has in common: If ya want to lose weight, exercise. Eat less bad foods, and more good (wholesome) foods. And thats about it.

Some people say eat less carbs, more protein, others say that meat is bad, eat only fruit and veggies, etc. What I want to know is the following: If I want to lose alot of fat, like 50-60lbs, what kinda of exercise is better, how often, and how long? Should I be doing 1 hr of cardio everyday of the week? Or should I be lifting weights every other day, should I do both? I used to lift weights in highschool, but its been forever.

And as far as nutrition goes, if I went on the atkins diet (all potien, no carbs) would that make gaining muscle easier? Or would my body freak out? Thanks in advance for any help.

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Old 16-Aug-02, 03:15 PM   #2
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Hey Vert, welcome aboard.

I would start reading some books and mags and see what interests you first. From there you can pick workouts and diets and make up your own. What are your goals? If it's just to lose fat and not concerned with muscle, start doing cardio keeping your heart rate 65-75% of your training heartrate, I like walking on the treadmill or outside for about 35-45 minutes. It's easier on the joints.

Muscle helps burn fat better than cardio alone and because you are a man you will have it easier if you do it right. I would lift weights starting on 3 times a week until the muscles get used to it. If you overdue it right out of the gates, your muscles will be really sore and you will end up on the couch for about 3-4 days until you feel good enough to hit the gym again and you don't want that to happen.

I would just try to concentrate on the workouts for now and get comfortable with them before hitting any crash course diet, otherwise you will become frustrated and most likely quit. This way your muscles will start using up some of those extra calories and you won't be frustrated by trying to diet and hit the gym and all that at once. Good luck.
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Old 16-Aug-02, 03:41 PM   #3
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Hey VerticalZR, that's great that you're starting out on the weight loss trail! I'm working to lose body fat too, and have benefitted a lot from this board and the people on it!

There are millions of diets out there and you might want to find one to stick to, but here are a few things I have come up with that have helped me over the past few months.

1. Do a little reading about the physiology of food and muscles. This will go a long way to helping you understand why you're supposed to eat what your diet says and when. Understanding that will help you figure out which diets are good and which are dumb. (For example, any diet that says you should just eat one thing, like pineapples one day and avocados the next = dumb.) There are millions of resources on the web, but here's a page I found very useful: Mucle 101

2. The best way to get your body to lose weight is not to starve yourself but to eat regularly and well enough to control your cravings. Controlling cravings (which really means controlling blood sugar and insulin, as far as I'm concerned -- see link above!) is the key to everything.

3. Fiber is your new best friend. Fiber, fiber, fiber with every meal. It slows digestion, helps you feel satisfied, and allows the food you eat to give you more energy over time.

4. Refined sugar is your new worst enemy. Unfortunately, you're going to have to suffer through this one. I had sugar cravings bordering on hallucinations for about a week and then, poof, no more cravings. Trust me on this one, it hurts like hell but when you come out the other side you'll see what a slave you had been.

5. When you change your diet, expect it to be very difficult for a week, but after that it gets easier and easier until it feels perfectly normal.

6. Doing cardio exercise to lose fat isn't as hard as you might think. I tried to lose weight in the past by getting on a lifecycle and riding for 10 minutes at high intensity until I got nauseated. Well what do you know, I didn't lose weight, I didn't like exercising, and I gave up shortly thereafter. The truth is, for burning fat, it's better for you to exercise at a low intensity than high intensity. Believe it or not, you can take a walk around the neighborhood and if you're out of shape enough (I was!) you can get your heart rate up into the fat burning range. As you get better in shape, you'll need to do more rigorous exercise to get your pulse up, but by then you'll be up to the challenge.

7. Building muscle is the best way to make yourself look better, plus it also turns out to be the best way to burn fat, as Kindachuby mentioned. But right in the beginning, weightlifting could be a great way to generate enthusiasm for exercise. If you're as out of shape as I was, just one or two trips to the gym will yield a noticeable difference in the amount of muscle on your body. When you build muscles, whatever fat is on your body gets lifted up by the muscle underneath, and you look better. For me, this was the most addictive part of exercising at first (looking in the mirror after a trip to the gym), even before I changed my diet and began to lose weight. Fopr example, my chest, which was droopy, began to stand up and look good!

8. Stretch, stretch, stretch. When I was heavy and sedentary, I got really stiff. Touch my toes? Howsabout my thigh... ouch! I have found that stretching = less sore after workout = more likely to workout regularly. I take about 20 minutes before every workout to stretch. Another benefit of stretching is that (at least the way I do it) it's slightly strenuous and gets my heart rate pretty much into the fat burning zone.

9. A watched pot (belly) never boils. Try as hard as you can to fall into a routine with your diet and exercise and not pay attention so much to how you fare from one day to the next. You may find that on Monday you eat a lot of salt and don't drink enough water, and so on Tuesday you look fatter. You'll feel like a failure if you pay attention to all these little fluctuations. But if you keep your head down for a week of hard work, I guarantee you that you'll be amazed at how much better you look.

10. Use this board as a resource, ask questions, get advice. Everyone is really nice and eager to help.

Good luck! You can definitely do it!

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Old 16-Aug-02, 05:03 PM   #4
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Wow guys, thanks for the quick replies. I also noticed that I posted this in the wrong forum, but you guys answered me anyways thanks..

As far as my goals, im looking to get rid of the fat first and foremost, but I would also like some muscle, nothing outta the pages of magazines, I just want to fit into size 32/34 pants again, and be able to go shirtless in the summer without any worries.

As far as sugar goes, I've already cut it out of my diet, I've been using artifical sweetner, if I get the need/craving for sweetness.. and I drink water mostly, with an occasional glass of tea. And if Im in the mood, I have a diet soda, no sugar.

That site ya mentioned up above very nice, informative too.
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