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Old 29-Sep-02, 02:28 AM   #1
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IronMAn, please help...


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"Hey I know of a GREAT supp' but they dont sell it at GNC, its called T-100, it is put out by SANN. Laboratories the here is the web site and I highly recomend this stuff I used it to get back into the swing of things and it helped me put on about 8 pounds in a month, no joke its kinda costly but it works with no side effects and it helped me cut down also the web site= http://www.sann.net I highly suggest you check it out. Another hting is that if you buy it take more than the recomended dose. If you want more info and details hit me up with a Private message"
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hey what do you think about this product? i was thinking about taking it with A-100

the only thing is i dont want Acne or any other bad sideeffects..is this possible? or should i only take T-100 ??


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Old 29-Sep-02, 02:31 AM   #2
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http://www.sann.net/legantesdrea.html
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Old 29-Sep-02, 08:27 AM   #3
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Well, they hype sounds great, shortguy. I have looked around and can not find any scientific papers on that exact ester (17 Hydroxyandrost-1-ene-3-one-Ether). There are ones that are close but they are all considered steroids.

The thing is, if this stuff works like they say it does then you will need to keep in mind some very important things:

1. Cost. You are looking at a minimum of $80 every 15 days. Ouch!

2. What happens to your gains when you stop? At least with real roids everyone knows to use clomid/hcg afterwards to bring your hpta back on line. All anyone can offer "legally" with this stuff is tribulus, and that IS NOT proven scientifically to work. Also, potency of trib varies from batch to batch and manufacturer to manufacturer. Basically using trib is a crap shoot.

3. It probably works. But don't believe the hype about no sides. That is bull****! If it works then you WILL get sides. Period. Just because it is OTC does not make it safe. I was recently trying Usnic acid (OTC and supposedly safe) for weight loss and my liver values came back bigtime skewed. This is stuff you never read in the hype. BE CAREFUL!

You are 18 or 19 shortguy? Your body is in its hormonal prime right now and is set to make incredible gains for you! But you must do the following: Consume mass quantities of FOOD!

I'll say it until I am blue in the face. Food is your biggest ally in the fight to gain size. If you don't eat 6 times per day and keep your cals OVER your maintenance level you WILL NOT GAIN SIZE. Keep a food log and make sure you are eating over 4200 cals per day of good, wholesome foods. You will be amazed at the changes you see by doing that.

If you spend $80 every two weeks on food you won't be disappointed by the results.
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Old 29-Sep-02, 11:02 PM   #4
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yea. i just turned 19. i am only 110lbs..... i have little fat now.since i went on vacation..hehe..
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Old 30-Sep-02, 04:42 PM   #5
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IronMan is right. If you want to gain size and bulk, you have to eat eat eat! Eat like there's no tomorrow! lol
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Well, they hype sounds great, shortguy. I have looked around and can not find any scientific papers on that exact ester (17 Hydroxyandrost-1-ene-3-one-Ether).


They use 1-test THP ether technology and not very elegantly I might add. The basis has been established in the pharmaceutical industry for increased lipophilicity and better lymphatic delivery of other AAS compounds. BUT, they found that a proper delivery vehicle (oil) must be employed and SAN doesn't use it. If you HAVE to use an ether modified product consider Molecular Nutrition's 1-T (1-test THP ether) or Nutrex's 1-TU (1-test undecanoate). Of course, the best method of administration is still 1-test base transdermally.

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2. What happens to your gains when you stop? At least with real roids everyone knows to use clomid/hcg afterwards to bring your hpta back on line. All anyone can offer "legally" with this stuff is tribulus, and that IS NOT proven scientifically to work. Also, potency of trib varies from batch to batch and manufacturer to manufacturer. Basically using trib is a crap shoot.


1-test is EXTREMELY anabolic and illicits gains that were unheard of from legal compounds until the introduction some time ago. It is a non-aromatizing AAS and as such gives lean gains that are easily maintained post cycle (likened to EQ for the QUALITY of mass). It does suppress the HTPA to the same degree as other AAS so the use of post cycle Nolva or clomid would be useful for recovery. An OTC alternative is 6-OXO that has been released by Patrick Arnold recently...and it is uncharacteristically cheap. http://www.ergopharm.com/news/news.

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3. It probably works. But don't believe the hype about no sides. That is bull****! If it works then you WILL get sides. Period. Just because it is OTC does not make it safe. I was recently trying Usnic acid (OTC and supposedly safe) for weight loss and my liver values came back bigtime skewed. This is stuff you never read in the hype. BE CAREFUL!


The sides of 1-test (ANY 1-test product whether it be oral, lymphatic, or transdermal) are lethargy, possible rash, hair loss, prostate enlargement, and mass gain.

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You are 18 or 19 shortguy? Your body is in its hormonal prime right now and is set to make incredible gains for you! But you must do the following: Consume mass quantities of FOOD!


Can't say it enough...food is the greatest anabolic agent known to man.

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