Just got GABA, how to use?

[fitricise]

Originally Posted by Maxgain

No I think it is actually vice versa the increase in GH will lead to a greater sleep. GABA will cause GH release whether you sleep or not

ahh so thats why people who exercise consistently require less sleep.

ive also been reading about how a combination of alcar and theanine can enhance stage 4 and rem sleep, requiring less. that would make sense because theanine increases GABA, but it also works in other ways. as soon as I can understand it i'll explain lol

[Gooseneck]

Well hell fire, guess I just need to read up on my fitness for dummies book again. I take it for sleep, nuff said. Whether it actually increases GH is still to be 100% determined. Now some forms of it does cross the blood-brain barrier, thus increasing GH, but the oral form is still uncertain.

[dxdmma06]

Its funny the stuff looks like cocane! My mom came in while I was putting it in water and was like "WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU DOING! " hehehe.

Question though how much should I start out taking? I think I took too little because I thought one scoop was a serving of 3 grams when 3 scoops was actually 3 grams (oops, it didn't really do anything). So should I just jump right into taking 3 grams or work up to it?

[Maxgain]

Originally Posted by Gooseneck

Well hell fire, guess I just need to read up on my fitness for dummies book again. I take it for sleep, nuff said. Whether it actually increases GH is still to be 100% determined. Now some forms of it does cross the blood-brain barrier, thus increasing GH, but the oral form is still uncertain.

The study i posted above is for oral administration and notes a significant increase in GH

[.V.]

Originally Posted by dxdmma06

Its funny the stuff looks like cocane! My mom came in while I was putting it in water and was like "WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU DOING! "

Ha, that's pretty funny. I had a similar thing happen when I first started using it. The deputies come to our office late for a place to hide an hour or two and take a break. I was mixing some up and they were like, "hey dieting are we - where's ours?". When I explained what it was and that they'd probably not finish the shift awake, they lost interest.

[Gooseneck]

Originally Posted by Maxgain

The study i posted above is for oral administration and notes a significant increase in GH

Correct, however there is only one study that seems to support this. There are others that havent drawn conclusive findings yet.

[Maxgain]

I find it hard to understand how such studies can be inclonclusive.
You simply take a group of individuals take a baseline GH or igf reading administer gaba take a reading about half an hour later or igf a few hours later and check for differences significant beyond natural variance.

[fitricise]

Originally Posted by Gooseneck

Correct, however there is only one study that seems to support this. There are others that havent drawn conclusive findings yet.

links?

[Gooseneck]

Originally Posted by Maxgain

Effect of acute and repeated administration of gamma aminobutyric acid (GABA) on growth hormone and prolactin secretion in man.

Cavagnini F, Invitti C, Pinto M, Maraschini C, Di Landro A, Dubini A, Marelli A.

A single oral dose of 5 g gamma aminobutyric acid (GABA) was given to 19 subjects and serial venous blood samples were obtained before and 3 h after drug administration. A placebo was administered to 18 subjects who served as controls. GABA caused a significant elevation of plasma growth hormone levels (P less than 0.001), but did not consistently alter plasma prolactin concentration since only 5 out of 15 subjects showed an increase of the hormone. Eight additional subjects were submitted to an insulin tolerance test before and after per os administration of 18 g GABA daily for 4 days. Protracted GABA treatment significantly blunted the response of growth hormone and enhanced that of prolactin to insulin hypoglycaemia (P less than 0.01). These results indicate that pharmacological doses of GABA affect growth hormone and prolactin secretion in man. The precise nature of GABA's effects as well as its mechanism of action remains to be clarified.

This is the same study that pops up all over the net making these claims. I'm not saying it isnt true, but I'm not going to be convinced entirely until its proven more thoroughly.

[Maxgain]

Originally Posted by fitricise

theres studies that show its because of the increase of GABA. more sleep will help too, but I know the greatest release of GH when sleeping is after about an hour. i havent looked much into that but i wonder if an hour long nap after lifting would be best, or maybe it wouldn't stimulate as much because its already elevated from working out... know anything on that max?

Train heavy eat big then take a nap you will be pouring out the GH