Legal Equivalents Help Please.

[nolanryan]

Here's the deal:

I'm in a profession in which I don't even want to think about doing anything considered to be illegal in fear of losing my job if ever caught. And with the recent attention paid to the illegal s*** by the Fed I just don't feel comfortable purchasing anything for "research purposes". Therefore, I am in need of some quasi-expert advice.

I want to take M1T. I've had a lot of past experience with the not-so-legal route, but that was well over 2-3 years ago. I've been extremely consistent with my lifting and need to move to another level for a short period of time. My dosage of M1T will not be exceedingly high, most likely no more than the following:

Week 1: 5mg/day
Week 2-3: 10mg/day
Week 4: 5mg/day

I have plenty of 6-oxo for PCT along with Tribulus and ZMA.

Could anyone suggest anything else that is on the legal market to help me out with preventing unwanted sides? I've never really been too prone to sides in the past. Back when I would go the other route I was super dumb and rarely used any PCT and was EXTREMELY lucky to not suffer the consequences. (Items prev. used: dbol, enanthate, eq, sust 250, deca)

The M1T Plus I have purchased is from "higher power" and includes:

Amount Per Serving:

Milk Thistle 175mg
Hawthorne Berry 150mg
Licorice Root 4:1 50mg
Methyl-1-Testosterone 5mg

Any other suggestions on:

a. Is this pretty much as good as I can do to help prevent sides?
b. What dosages I should use of the products that I listed?
c. Other comments/questions?

Thank you in advance fellow lifters! :

[Lift2Live]

I've looked into the M1T craze ALOT lately, reasearching experiences and pictures. I think eve more milk thistle is possible than just what comes in the product. More liver protection is always good. The only difference is that the people i've talked to and read about say that the 6-oxo isn't the ideal choice and that Nolvadex is still the best bet but, if you aren't prone to sides like some people are, the 6-oxo may be ok along with the Tribulus. Gyno and other sides that come with the illegal gear aren't supposed to be an issue with M1T so perhaps you are ok with what you have. I've seen most people doing what you are in dosage accept on week 4 where they actually go to 15mg or even 20.

I try to be as informed as possible even though i'll probably never go this route. I think it's really important to remember that M1T is NOT a prohormone it IS a steroid as it needs no conversion. There are a number of sides while on it that I dunno if i'd want like the lower back pain/stiffness, lethargy etc,... Good luck with it either way and tell us how things go and what you experience. I am very interested in these things.

By the way, here is a link to a member's M1T experience from this site if you are interested; http://www.discussfitness.com/showth...t=rich%27s+m1t

[pmcgough]

just go with clomid and nolva...as for going 5-10-5...bad idea...go 5-10-10 or 5-10-15

you can not get in any trouble for using the clomid and nolva from physical enhancement

[nolanryan]

Okay many, I understand you might have known someone that ordered them (or done so) and got them no problem, but I have read on the Internet about a situation where a guy was busted that had his s*** labeled "for research only" and still got 5 years. I don't need even the chance of that at this point in my life. Now, if I knew someone who had it, sure no problem, but I don't. So, it's the legal route for me...How ever unfortunate that may be.

Besides brotha, I read a ton of magazines and all I keep hearing about is pros who went to jail. Again, don't need that.

And on your dosage recommendations...This stuff is strong and tough on the liver/body. I don't wanna go too high...Plus why not taper at the end of the cycle? It seems really stupid to just go cold turkey to nothing without weening a tad.

But a bump for the advice anyways

[nolanryan]

Okay I'm on day two of exactly what I said I was going to do.

Did back today:

T-Bar Row (Homemade w/ a 45lb bar and a close grip cable row bar)
Stiff Leg Deads
Lat Pull Downs - Underhand grip

I'm not listing weights right now b/c I'm tired and it takes too long...Lethargy's a bitch, although back pain isn't too bad...noticable yesterday, not really today.

Taking the mulit-vit, 1000IU Vit-E, 500mg Vit-C for extra protection against free radicals and the Vit-E is good for the liver.

I have also decided that if I stick with this thru the duration I'm going with 2500mg Tribulus, Max Dosage of 6-oxo for 2-3 weeks then tapered to min dosage for 6 week cycle, and ZMA before bed.

[pmcgough]

do not take my advice lightly, you wont get busted...as for your back workout, its kind of weak...and DO NOT TAPER

[nolanryan]

Okay:

1. you still haven't explained why you wouldn't taper.

2. Ever hear of H.I.T. (dumbass)