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Old 08-Sep-04, 03:18 AM   #1
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Losing Motovation not fat


I've been training for sometime now and even after all my efforts, i just can't shift the fat around my chest (man boobs) and waist.
Im kinda losing motivation with my training. All i see is other gym attendees with nice chests and abs.
I've heard that there is a supplement which increases the fat burning process when exercising. Is this truth or myth? Has anyone ever used such a method?
Shall i try it, or just stick to the natural method?
Any advice or guidence will be appriciated.
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Old 08-Sep-04, 08:58 AM   #2
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Focus on resistance training and getting your nutritional intake balanced with your workload. What do you eat in a day -- and on what schedule?
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Old 08-Sep-04, 09:40 AM   #3
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I had a similar situation. I said I was eating well and working hard. When I looked in detail though, I found what I was eating and when was not as great as I thought. I now mix resistance training and cardio on different days, but pay close attention to my fuel (food). It does take time and you dont want to loose to quickly though.
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Old 08-Sep-04, 11:54 AM   #4
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eat 2000 calories a day, split into meals every 3 hours
or, carb manipulation(high one day, moderate the next) keeps the body guessing so that its metabolism never adapts

also, go to physicalenhancement.com
go to research chemicals, and buy clenbuterol
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Old 10-Sep-04, 08:34 PM   #5
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Fat loss is mostly diet, IMHO. Get that into check, then work on building lean mass, and throw in some HIIT cardio.

Make sure to limit your sugar, and white flower.

I only use Whey Protein, so I can't help you there.
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Old 17-Sep-04, 06:05 AM   #6
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What i eat..


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Focus on resistance training and getting your nutritional intake balanced with your workload. What do you eat in a day -- and on what schedule?
Hi,
This is typically what i consume in a week, irrespective of how i train. Do take note of the order of the listing as its near how i consume the food/drink.

MONDAY
3x Coffee (milk/sugar)
Breakfast (1 brown toast, 50g beans, 1 fried egg, 1 sausage, 1 bacon)
1x Banana
1.5ltrs Water
Lunch (Beefburger, chips and beans)
Training= Biceps and Legs
1x Apple
Dinner (3x grilled chicken & salad)
Dessert (Snickers Ice cream bar)


TUESDAY
4x Coffee (milk/sugar)
Breakfast (1 brown toast, 50g beans, 1 fried egg, 1 sausage, 1 bacon)
1x Banana
1.5ltrs Water
Lunch (Tuna Mix Crusty white sandwich, 50g Cheese & Onion crisps)
Snack (McVities Jaffa Cake Bar)
Training= Cardio
1x Apple
Dinner (250g chicken + rice)


WEDNESDAY
3x Coffee (milk/sugar)
Breakfast (1 brown toast, 50g beans, 1 fried egg, 1 sausage, 1 bacon)
1x Banana
1.5ltrs Water
Lunch (Beefburger, chips and beans)
Alcohol (3x Brandy and coke)
Training= Back and Shoulders
1x Apple
Dinner (Various Indian food)
Midnight Snack (Chicken burger + chips)


THURSDAY
4x Coffee (milk/sugar)
Breakfast (1 brown toast, 50g beans, 1 fried egg, 1 sausage, 1 bacon)
1x Banana
1.5ltrs Water
Lunch (Vegitable Pasty, chips and beans)
Training= none
Dinner1 (200g Grilled chicken, ketchup )
Dinner2 (Pizza Express: Dough Ball + Pollo Da Astra)


FRIDAY
3x Coffee (milk/sugar)
Breakfast (1 brown toast, 50g beans, 1 fried egg, 1 sausage, 1 bacon)
1x Banana
1.5ltrs Water
Training= none
Lunch (1x Salt and Vinegar crisps (50g), 2x Various sandwiches)
Dinner (Indian various)
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Old 17-Sep-04, 06:13 AM   #7
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eat 2000 calories a day, split into meals every 3 hours
or, carb manipulation(high one day, moderate the next) keeps the body guessing so that its metabolism never adapts

also, go to physicalenhancement.com
go to research chemicals, and buy clenbuterol

Hi,
What is that stuff? As on going to the website, you see a massive disclaimer stating that its not ment for this or that, research purposes only etc..
Its quite off putting.
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Old 17-Sep-04, 07:47 AM   #8
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Hi Hamz

As you have found out (the hard way) the only thing you are going to lose with a diet like that, is motivation! It's not terrible, but it could be much, much better.

To lose body fat, you need to stop thinking about a quick fix drug, ignore stuff like clenbuterol and re-evaluate your diet plan.

At first glance, it seems to me that you need a bit more structure to what you eat. Smaller and more frequent meals are the key to success.

Going into a bit more detail, first off drop that breakfast. No other way to say it - but it sucks. Try and get some decent carbs (such as oats) and some protein in the form of eggs (NOT fried), milk or a whey protein drink.

The Indian meals, Pizza express stuff, burgers, all this stuff HAS to go if you want to lose the fat. If you dont want to give it up, then you're not gonna lose the fat so give up now and save yourself some heartache.

There are loads of good ideas on this forum for meals. Try to get plenty of fruit and vegetables in your diet. Meat is good, but try to get it with the lowest fat content possible (skinless chicken breast, etc). I'd also recommend you look at getting some decent Whey Protein. This is pretty standard amongst people trying to improve their physical selves, and will also help a bit with your sweet tooth (it comes in all sorts of flavours - chocolate being my fave ).

Sorry if I'm being hard on your here, but I just don't want to lie to you. To lose the fat requires a lifestyle change and takes more time and effort than 99% of people think before they start.

If you decide to stick with it though, then good luck.
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