need to know if military will test for roids

[rodger1706]

hey i just got some deca-durabolin and im going to take 200mg a week for 8 weeks and a post cycle of clomid 50mg a day for 2 weeks. But anyways i want to know if this is safe to do because i am on delayed entry program while i finish up some credits in college and i want to know if the military will test for steroids

also another thing i have to meet with my recruiter every 2 weeks and i was wondering if he would be able to notice my gains and suspect something


thanks

[Kitara]

Originally Posted by rodger1706

hey i just got some deca-durabolin and im going to take 200mg a week for 8 weeks and a post cycle of clomid 50mg a day for 2 weeks. But anyways i want to know if this is safe to do because i am on delayed entry program while i finish up some credits in college and i want to know if the military will test for steroids

also another thing i have to meet with my recruiter every 2 weeks and i was wondering if he would be able to notice my gains and suspect something


thanks

Have you signed on the dotted line? (edit: nevermind, My husband just said that if you're on delayed entry then you're already committed.) Are you in the ROTC program? If the answer to either of these two questions is yes then my advice is to stay off the steroids. I'm not SURE if the sample you submit is tested for steroids (and actually, my husband just pulled up so I'll ask him) or not, but there's always a first time. Why put your career in jepordy before you even have one?

edit: I just talked to my husband and he said, "He's just asking to get his ass kicked out." If they are illegal (which we know they are) then you will more than likely be found out. He wasn't positive, but he said, "They test for a whole ****load of crap." and they do random testing.

Bottom line: If it's illegal, you shouldn't be doing it especially when you're going into the military.

[dsade]

Originally Posted by rodger1706

hey i just got some deca-durabolin and im going to take 200mg a week for 8 weeks and a post cycle of clomid 50mg a day for 2 weeks. But anyways i want to know if this is safe to do because i am on delayed entry program while i finish up some credits in college and i want to know if the military will test for steroids

also another thing i have to meet with my recruiter every 2 weeks and i was wondering if he would be able to notice my gains and suspect something


thanks

They can always test for them if they suspect you of using, but as to random testing, they test for:

Cocaine
Marijuana
Heroin

The cost involved in testing every single member of the military 4 times a year (standard) would be insane for any more substances.

As a side note, in a function such as the military, where strength and agression are encouraged, steroids and working out were sort of "winked at", if not encouraged. I can only speak for my own experience, of course, and that of the others that I talked to.

Finally, IMO your bulk will hamper you more than help you when going to Basic. The strength will definitely help, but endurance is the more important of the two. You will be feeling those extra pounds marching and running.

If I was you, I would save your cycle for when you get to your final unit.

[Jakanden]

Originally Posted by Kitara

Bottom line: If it's illegal, you shouldn't be doing it especially when you're going into the military.

My thoughts EXACTLY =)

[ricohelms]

If you are about to enter basic training the military USUALLY will not test for steriods. They test for narcotics such as pot, coke, herion and the like. They are looking for certain levels of the drugs too. That being said, roids while in basic is not a good idea. There are certain things that you will have to do while in basic that your body WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE. The sleep devravation alone that most recruits experience will make you levels go crazy. Not a good idea bro!! If you are set on using, wait until basic is over.

[rodger1706]

thanks for all of the info guys but i dont leave until july 1 when college is over and i do run about 3-4 miles a day so my endurance is pretty good the only thing im afraid of is getting all massive and then my recruiter will start to wonder. Oh ya i also have another question, how much weight do you think i will gain by doing an 8 week 200mg a day cycle of deca? Will someone that sees me everyday notice a dramatic difference?


thanks

[ricohelms]

Originally Posted by rodger1706

thanks for all of the info guys but i dont leave until july 1 when college is over and i do run about 3-4 miles a day so my endurance is pretty good the only thing im afraid of is getting all massive and then my recruiter will start to wonder. Oh ya i also have another question, how much weight do you think i will gain by doing an 8 week 200mg a day cycle of deca? Will someone that sees me everyday notice a dramatic difference?


thanks

You'll get hard, you won't gain much weight. Your face might puff up a bit. That's 2cc/ml per day right??

[Fitness4U]

Steroids test are too expensive.
Unless you are going to the Olympics, playing on the NFL, NBA, NHL, etc... You should not be tested. Like other mentioned, they mainlly test for narcotics.

[dsade]

Originally Posted by Kitara

Bottom line: If it's illegal, you shouldn't be doing it especially when you're going into the military.

Engaging in anal/oral sex, even with your wife used to be considered "illegal" by the military (I haven't checked in a long time, it may still even be) and you could be sentenced to prison for engaging in it.

The law alone can be retarded (as are the people that enact such laws), and is not necessarily a cut and dried guideline for behaviour.

[ZedsDead]

Originally Posted by rodger1706

also another thing i have to meet with my recruiter every 2 weeks and i was wondering if he would be able to notice my gains and suspect something

200 mgs of deca a week alone? you'll barely be able to notice the gains, thats a weak amount and enjoy your limp dick

[Kitara]

Originally Posted by dsade

The law alone can be retarded... is not necessarily a cut and dried guideline for behaviour.

While I do agree with you, it's still the law and in the military there are some that are more relaxed on what they will bust you on and there are those that take it to the letter of the law. In the military, it IS a cut and dried guideline for behaviour when dealing with illegal drugs. Now, the punishment, if caught, will vary from person to person, but why take the risk?

You're right about the sexual acts and you can still get in trouble for them . Yes, I agree it's "retarded" and unless you're out in public you're not going to get caught. But, we're not talking about sex here. We're talking about illegal drugs and it's not a matter of whether we believe they should be illegal or not the fact is that they ARE. So, being an illegal substance it is not allowed. And whether or not it is normal procedure for them to test for steroids or not, if his recruiter even gets a slight inclining that he's taking steroids he can order a test.

Now, whether they turn a blind eye to steroids, that I don't know. There are a lot of factors involved and I guarantee there is some pissed off commander out there just waiting to bust someone. (and our luck, that's the commander WE would get LOL) We're in the Air Force where brute strength is not something that is required/encouraged so who knows. Maybe in the Marines/Army it is not discouraged. (Don't ask, don't tell.)

My only point is that when you're doing something you shouldn't be according to the rules of the organization that you've committed yourself to then you're playing with fire. People drink and drive all the time when they know they are not supposed to and a lot of them don't get caught. BUT - those that do end up losing stripes, paying heavy fines, or even getting dishonorable discharged from the military. That one bad choice will follow you for the rest of your life.

Trust me on this. We are in the military and learning the hard way what one seemingly "harmless" wrong decision sends ripples throughout your military career .

This not a moral questions on the use of steroids because I would never get into that debate, it's a question of "I know I'm doing something wrong going into the military, do you think I'll get caught?" My answer is, "Why risk it?" Are the gains you may or may not keep after your cycle worth the risk you're taking to get them. You know you hardly get to eat in basic training and sleep is out of the question so you're probably going to lose a lot of muscle there anyway. So, IMO you're not only risking your career, you're wasting time and money.

[rodger1706]

Well this would be my first time using this stuff and i was told to do no more than 2-4cc a week, and i figured i would do the minimum to see how i reacted, but i also want to see gains and i only want to take deca so what would you guys suggest.

thanks

[qlharvey]

Originally Posted by rodger1706

Well this would be my first time using this stuff and i was told to do no more than 2-4cc a week, and i figured i would do the minimum to see how i reacted, but i also want to see gains and i only want to take deca so what would you guys suggest.

thanks

If your basic training was like mine they will search you for things you're not supposed to have brought with you, like illegal substances. After basic, you may or may not have a chance to use them depending on where you end up going.

[dsade]

Originally Posted by Kitara

People drink and drive all the time when they know they are not supposed to and a lot of them don't get caught. BUT - those that do end up losing stripes, paying heavy fines, or even getting dishonorable discharged from the military. That one bad choice will follow you for the rest of your life.

Trust me on this. We are in the military and learning the hard way what one seemingly "harmless" wrong decision sends ripples throughout your military career .

I definitely agree with you there. During my time in, we had 15 DUIs in my unit (out of 500 people in my Battalion).

Probably best to play it by ear as, as you pointed out, each unit/command is different.

[ricohelms]

Originally Posted by rodger1706

Well this would be my first time using this stuff and i was told to do no more than 2-4cc a week, and i figured i would do the minimum to see how i reacted, but i also want to see gains and i only want to take deca so what would you guys suggest.

thanks

2cc/ml per week is not enough to notice any gains. It might make you a bit stronger and you will notice that you are a little harder. One guy posted "enjoy the limp dick" this is one side of Deca. You will notice that your sex drive does take a little dip while you are on your cycle.