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Old 30-May-04, 11:09 AM   #1
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New Pro-Steroids


These new pro-steroids such as Methyl 1-Test etc... are crazy how close they are to steroids you can go down the street and practically buy legal steroids... and from feed back from people using them they work really well. Someday soon they will have something legal that works just as good as anything you can buy....
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Old 30-May-04, 02:59 PM   #2
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regarding m1t. just did a 4 week course at 40mg ed. had brilliant gains but side effects were very bad.extreme lethargy, markedly increased agression, stomach cramps and pains eminating from kidney/liver came off as soon as these pains started currently on pct. things seem ok. have done a few ph cycles, but nothing prepared me for this. not gona answer any questions regarding this thread, just want to say use m1t with extreme caution.cheers
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Old 30-May-04, 06:30 PM   #3
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40 mg ed is a crazy dose you should have read up on it before starting. 10-15mg is perfect for most without alot of the harsh sides. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with nolva while off seems to do the trick.
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Old 30-May-04, 07:36 PM   #4
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Don't be fooled, nothing will ever be as good as the actual compounds try to walk around that fact and you'll find yourself in deeper than you'd like. This new wave, around the 3rd wave of this type of steroid now admittadly they keep getting better and better - but there's always a big price to pay. I won't tell you not to use steroids, they can be perfectly safe, but I would heavily advise people of any age not to cycle these chemicals.
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Old 30-May-04, 10:05 PM   #5
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I know these pro-steroids will never be exactly like steroids but its amazing if your willing to take them that they will give as close as it gets results to steroids. I've also heard the same though Lee that you might as well for getting the same sides go for the real thing cuz basically you are pretty much taking the real thing....
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Old 31-May-04, 09:32 AM   #6
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its amazing if your willing to take them that they will give as close as it gets results to steroids
I don't think so.
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Old 31-May-04, 11:17 AM   #7
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It's also not a question of hearing it off the odd person on a message board, it's proven science that these compounds will never yield the results the real things do - and are considerably more dangerous....especially since they are made available on the shelf.
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Old 31-May-04, 09:47 PM   #8
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Jock all I was saying is there isn't anything you can buy at stores that will give you any better results than 1-test although they aren't close to steroids they are as close as you'll get without using the real stuff even if you would only get 25% of what you would get off the real stuff, if that good.
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Old 07-Jun-04, 10:14 AM   #9
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Not really sure what you mean bro, but I've tried both and you can't really compare the two.
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Old 07-Jun-04, 08:36 PM   #10
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regarding m1t. just did a 4 week course at 40mg ed. had brilliant gains but side effects were very bad.extreme lethargy, markedly increased agression, stomach cramps and pains eminating from kidney/liver came off as soon as these pains started currently on pct. things seem ok. have done a few ph cycles, but nothing prepared me for this. not gona answer any questions regarding this thread, just want to say use m1t with extreme caution.cheers
Holy crap dude, that's like twice as much as most people would take. No wonder you had side effects. Even for an experienced PH user, 40mg is still a lot. You would have probably had the same gains by taking 10mg (15mg tops). I hope you're on PCT or you might really be screwed.
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Old 10-Jun-04, 09:57 AM   #11
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Although M1T seems to be the latest rage, the side effects seem to outweigh the gains in my opinion. I imagine it would be tough to make good gains while experiencing extreme lethargy, cramps etc. There must be another option out there?
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Old 10-Jun-04, 12:30 PM   #12
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what is PCT?
Anyone have a link to site with some real unbiased studies on M1T?
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Old 11-Jun-04, 06:04 PM   #13
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Let me clear up just what I was saying from what I've read and heard about m1t is that lets say you gain 5-10 pounds of muscle a cycle(max, also just throwing out numbers in my head) thats prob being generous of course, I dunno. Ok lets say you do a cycle of test gain 20-30 pounds of muscle (thus saying you ate everything in sight and worked out hard yet again). If you gain 5 pounds of muscle in a M1T cycle which whould be about 20-30% of the gains you would get from steroids. However this example is totally stupid and I know you can't compare the two but anyway and isn't a study or with proof of scientific evidence its just a "lets say this". Just to say if you get some good gains from 1-test legally and for like $60 bucks maybe its worth it, maybe its not also I haven't tried it. Oh well some people say its good, some say its not who knows.... in the end though i know that M1T and Test + deca or whatever isn't close or maybe never will be...

Gonna shut up now before I sound too stupid lol
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Old 11-Jun-04, 10:27 PM   #14
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Methyl-1-test is extremely powerful, and quite comparable to the real deal. Many people believe that after the ban there will still be a huge market for methyl-1-test, it is that good.

Some people hate the side effects, but they never bothered me too much. My liver sure hated it, though.
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Old 12-Jun-04, 01:07 PM   #15
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The screwed up part of the whole thing is kids are taking this crap and know nothing about it at all in regards to PCT.Im not sure if the bottles list or mention PCT on them "I doubt it".These teenagers know $hit and are pumping this very toxic stuff into themselves.Im sure my body would be able to handle it now that it is fully developed but for a 18 year old to walk into a store and just buy this stuff is crazy.
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