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Old 17-Feb-08, 10:03 AM   #1
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This stuff is pretty cool, its reccomended for 18 Year olds and above, it shuts off your estrogen production and produces more testosterone in place of where the estrogen should be. And once you cycle off of it, everything goes back to normal, no hormone imbalance, im gonna give it a try.
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Old 17-Feb-08, 10:13 AM   #2
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Are you producing atypically high amounts of estrogen? This seems useless for a teenage boy... unless of course you are coming off a cycle, but I don't think that's the case.
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No, its for this, lets say for an example, your producting 80% Testosterone and 20% estrogen

It shuts off estrogen production so therefore your producing 100% Testosterone and once your done with this, everythign goes back to normal.
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Old 17-Feb-08, 10:50 AM   #4
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Sounds like a form of nolvadex. If it dows the same it CAN block androgens from binding with estrogen receptors. However, you do need a certain amount of estrogen naturally in your system. If it's over the counter I would have my doubts how well it does work.
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You think it will support strength gains?
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Old 17-Feb-08, 11:19 AM   #6
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You're already popping with Testosterone right now, something like this would be pretty much useless until you're at least in your late 20's and up.
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Old 17-Feb-08, 01:04 PM   #7
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No, its for this, lets say for an example, your producting 80% Testosterone and 20% estrogen

It shuts off estrogen production so therefore your producing 100% Testosterone and once your done with this, everythign goes back to normal.
I understand what the product claims, but do you even have the slightest clue what your testosterone or estrogen levels are? Considering you are a teenage male, this seems like giving Hot-Rox to an anorexic.
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So your saying its going to do absoulutley nothing.
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Old 17-Feb-08, 01:39 PM   #9
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You're already popping with Testosterone right now, something like this would be pretty much useless until you're at least in your late 20's and up.
Yeha but this one doesnt just add more testosterone like the others, it replaces the estrogen with testosterone, so its not ADDING more test like steroids do adn thats why your body produces more estrogen to prevent hormone imbalance. This stuff completley depletes your estrogen and replaces with test, therefore once your off it, your hormone levels go back to normal. Its only a 3 week cycle.
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Old 17-Feb-08, 02:45 PM   #10
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If your test levels are already high, than they wont increase much at all, thus giving you no results. Your body can only produce so much testosterone.
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Old 17-Feb-08, 04:07 PM   #11
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So your saying its going to do absoulutley nothing.
I would anticapte that this will do nothing but decrease your bank account. Maybe it'll have a placebo effect at best.

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Yeha but this one doesnt just add more testosterone like the others, it replaces the estrogen with testosterone, so its not ADDING more test like steroids do adn thats why your body produces more estrogen to prevent hormone imbalance. This stuff completley depletes your estrogen and replaces with test, therefore once your off it, your hormone levels go back to normal. Its only a 3 week cycle.
So if this does what it claims, you are going to have more testosterone then your body would have normally, but it's not ADDING? I would imagine you've heard of supercompensation since it is the basis of muscle growth. When you damage or remove something in your body, it will replace it stronger once healed. When you break a bone, it grows back denser. When you break down a muscle working out, it grows back larger and stronger. When you deplete your body of any necessary estrogen balance... well, you get the picture.
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Old 17-Feb-08, 08:55 PM   #12
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Yeha but this one doesnt just add more testosterone like the others, it replaces the estrogen with testosterone, so its not ADDING more test like steroids do adn thats why your body produces more estrogen to prevent hormone imbalance. This stuff completley depletes your estrogen and replaces with test, therefore once your off it, your hormone levels go back to normal. Its only a 3 week cycle.
me and my buddy have alot of conversations about , steroids / testosterone boosters and estro blockers, im no expert but heres my 2cents...... look this is not a different concept, usually when you buy your over the counter test boosters they are meant for one thing, increase test production. but you dont just take those alone, like you said the point is to block estrogen, so most test boosters are suggested to be stacked with a estrogen blocker...... this is the same idea as what youre presenting, except its a 2for1 combo.

and yes like mav and goose said, at your age you will not notice many results... if your stuck on this idea, you mite wanna try it in a few years down the road, when you lose your youthfulness... trust me, im 25 I can tell that stuff would do wonders for me, as opposed what it wouldve done for me when I was 18-20.

another thing you need to look at is, being safe wit stuff like this... I suggest anyone considering illegal testerone, or test-boosters or estrogen blocker, should really educate themselves because you can really mess up the balances of your hormones, to the point where your adrenaline glands and testicles and I think kidneys would rely on your new medicines and couldnt produce itself. and theyres always mental problems to consider... say your at full 100% testosterone level, your ability to make rational decisions is not good, as if you had a little estrogen in you. not trying to be funny, its pretty serious, thats why women are smarter then us... LoL. if your raging with test. then you will get upset and angry about some dumb ****, you might become the next NIU shooter, you might go and shoot up a club, you mite wig out and beat your girl to a pulp because she wanted to know how much you benched today. and then you have to worry about the expansion of your organs which make you prone to diseases, which make your lungs more prone to toxins like smoking and make your liver more prone to disease from drinking... you need to be strict when takin stuff like this. its gotta come down to a T with your diet and social habits. people often take products like this, then go out clubbin every thursday-saturday night, a whole 3 nights of smoking and drinking<--- thats called abuse, because you are abusing the privelage to use a product like this, and your messing it up for other who do practice good habits when taking stuff like this. oh yea and it can also cause male-pattern baldness , shrinkage of testicles because of what I said about loss production in the testes, and your voice will get real deep n dumb sounding.
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Old 17-Feb-08, 09:36 PM   #13
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I need something to help me gain strength, im craving it
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Old 18-Feb-08, 08:04 AM   #14
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I need something to help me gain strength, im craving it
How 'bout patience and hard work? Works for most.

Take the time to read people's posts and respond rather than post a silly one-liner comment. You'll be more likely to get help in the future.
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Old 18-Feb-08, 09:05 AM   #15
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been working hard, Heavy Bench Press, heavy close grip, weighted pullups, deadlifts, not budging at all :\.
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