post your experience with 1-test 4-ad

**beefcurry1** · 27-Apr-04, 01:43 PM

im about to start my first cycle of 1-test 4-ad(i have been researching this for the past 4 months or so and have all the info as far as how much to take, how to take it, and how to post cycle) and i was wondering what kind of results some of you have seen from this. all i need is a brief overview of your program, namely how much you took, what delivery, what rep scheme you used, rough estimate of caloric intake, and any gains you made(size, strength, and bf%) i just want to get a little bit of an idea of what to expect to get from this.

**jgriffith** · 27-Apr-04, 02:15 PM

what form is this in? the spray bottle? s1+??? Monstar has been on it for about 3 weeks now, you may want to ask him although he is no longer on this site, if you go to ironmagazine forums you'll find him. Basically you will see gains in size strength. You're going to want to be eating more calories to really get the maximum benefit of this. Definitely dont do it if you are cutting. Just lift really heavy, real intense dont skimp yourself in the gym.

**beefcurry1** · 27-Apr-04, 03:39 PM

im taking it transdermal in T-gel, streax said thats a really good lotion to use. right now im taking in around 3500, im going to try and bump that up as much as i can. im barely able to get the 3500 now but ill do what i can to eat eat eat. skimp myself in the gym???? like im a rookie or something, psh.

**jgriffith** · 27-Apr-04, 04:13 PM

hahaha, i wasnt implying anything. That looks real good, I've heard the transdermal stuff is the best. Basically identical to an injection right? Should work out pretty nice, what are you doing for PST?

**beefcurry1** · 27-Apr-04, 05:21 PM

im not sure how it stacks up to injections. nolvadex post cycle. im gonna see how 40mg first 2 weeks, then 30, then 20 works out. im still checking stuff out about that but ive read thats about how most people do it so until i read otherwise....

**jgriffith** · 27-Apr-04, 05:30 PM

Nolvadex may be stronger than you need, but atleast you'll know nothing is going to be happening to you post cycle. 6 oxo and ZMA is probably enough to get the job done, someone correct me if i'm wrong.

**Gooseneck** · 27-Apr-04, 05:41 PM

If you're going with a short cycle of PH, than you're probably safe with 6OXO, but if your stretch it to 4 weeks or longer, you might want to consider the Nolvadex. Your HPTA will be shut down for sure by then. I'd take Nolva just to be safe.
40-20-20 is good, but you could probably do 30-10-10 and be fine considering your not dealing with hard gear.

nolanryan · 27-Jun-04, 04:38 PM

I've used 1-AD on it's own in the past for about 4 weeks. It was def. something that I felt worked, however having done actual stuff in the past I have to say that it doesn't come close to the real thing. Does it work, yeah, it works...but I def. feel the sides are not worth the trouble. Find a "good friend" and do it the right way.