Protein Shakes vs Food

[The ?]

I weigh 200 pounds and i consume 200g of protein from Chicken,Eggs, and Cottage Cheese etc.
My post workout meal is as such:
Pasta and Lean Skinless Chicken Breast 415cals/35 protein/1.9 fat/64 carbs

As I know, you should take protein to UP your daily protein, and usually taken on POST WORKOUT cuz of the carbs as well...

I think I get enough from the food that i consume already, dont you think??? 64 carbs post workout and 1g of protein per 1 pound of my body weight...

BUT WHY DO PEOPLE STILL TELL ME "PROEIN SHAKES" WILL GIVE YOU BETTER RESULTS...........TAKE THE PROTEIN!!! and everyone i know TAKES IT....

i have tried it but just a couple of times, please tell me, is there something else that protein shakes have that would seriously UP my workout results...???

im not into supplements and i wanna keep it that way...

it would be nice if you guys could answer in detail so i can once help someone with this question....

thx b4

[B.A.]

You don't really need additional protein in the form of protein shakes or protein bars, simply because you don't require the amount of proteins that you ("you" as in the majority of resistance athletes) actually consume.

1g of protein per lb of body mass eh? Do you think a pound of fat requires the same amount of protein as a pound of muscle ?

Another question: You eat 200g of protein daily, which amounts to 6kg of protein in 30 days. Have you gained 6kg of muscle in thirty days? No. Have you even gained 3kg of muscle in 30 days? I highly doubt it. So already I've shown that 50% of the protein you eat isn't used for the purposes intended i.e. anabolism/ hypertrophy. If you can gain 1lb of pure muscle a week, which equates to about 2kg of protein in 30 days, then only a third of the protein you eat is used to support growth.

Ultimately, you will ge more than enough protein from natural sources such as the food that you eat, IMHO of course.

- B.A.

[Lee J B]

Absoloutly stunning advice from the main man there, nice one mate. The ? , post-workout is very different from all the other times in the day and that's why people usually use a shake specifically for this time. What it is, is that you need to saturate your muscle as quick as possible post-workout to promote anabolism of muscle asap to do this the protein needs to be digested extremely fast - that's where the whey shakes come in. Whey is the fastest digesting protein on the planet, and there are varying standards within whey supplements that digest even faster going on how they are produced. Generally eating a meal post-workout will have around the same effects but it could never equal the digestion times simply because chicked doesn't digest as fast....if possible too, you want to avoid pasta post-workout like the plague..complex carbs post workout is the LAST thing you want, slowing digestion even further. Your meal would be ideal for a meal an hour after you have had a shake, after your workout, but nothing can beat a whey and dextrose shake post-workout.

[CJNY]

Originally Posted by B.A.

Ultimately, you will ge more than enough protein from natural sources such as the food that you eat, IMHO of course.

I'd say you CAN get enough protein from regular food, but whether you WILL or not depends on how careful your are with your diet planning. Whey shakes are pretty handy way to get some high quality, fast digesting protein and they are even cost effective when compared to other foods. Do they make a noticable difference when consumed on top of an already good diet? No, probably not. But when you are in a hurry after a workout they are hard to beat.

IMO - too many people overlook the value of protein found in beans and legumes, and concentrate too much on meats and dairy. It doesn't take much protein from other sources to make the vegetable protein in beans complete, plus you get the added benefits of extra fiber and carbs in your diet. A body needs protein, fats, and carbs to build muscle. Protein powders are best used post workout. And protein bars are pretty much nothing more than fancy candy.

[B.Kauk]

it's all rubbish, pushed by the sport supplement manufacturers.

You don't need all that extra protien anyway. Keep eating like that and you'll get fat.

The only way your body will make use of all the extra protien is if you use steroids. If not, FATTY FATTY.

[Lee J B]

Ok, B.Kauk... I'll hold off telling you that you don't know what your talking about for a second and give you a chance to post the source behind many of your posts - afterall, you could be right and the rest of the board could be wrong ... But seriously B.Kauk, the search feature will do wonders for you.

[cursor]

While it is true that excessive protein (or any macronutrient for that matter) will contribute to fat stores, just how much your body needs depends on a variety of individual factors. The protein-turnover rate for humans cannot be adequately targeted by using any single X factor for everyone. Not even for two people who boast equal amounts of LBM. It will depend on one's particular metabolism, activity intensity & frequency, meal timing, macronutrient balance ... and other factors.

How much protein, carbohydrates, and quality fats we consume for optimal physical returns is something that we all need to intelligently experiment with.

Great point, IronMan, about the legumes and the benefits of non-traditional sources of protein.

[rbuchman]

IMHO
I am in similar shape as you and I take in a little more protien from whole foods AND an average of 4 or 5 shakes a day. I read in a book called "No mistakes" a body builders diet guide that when protein is burned as fuel it takes a lot of fat with it. I can personally atest to this. Since upping my protien intake to what most people consider a ridiculous level and cutting some of the carbs to account for this I have had great gains and an even greater level of leanness.

[CJNY]

Originally Posted by B.Kauk

it's all rubbish, pushed by the sport supplement manufacturers.
You don't need all that extra protien anyway. Keep eating like that and you'll get fat.
The only way your body will make use of all the extra protien is if you use steroids. If not, FATTY FATTY.

One hears this kind of diatribe frequently, but it has little basis in fact. If supplement manufacturers are so nefarious then why do they sell high quality protein for less $ per gram than most "real food" sources? And, yes, many people eat more protein than they really need. Whether it's actually doing them any harm is another question entirely. If they ate less protein, though, they'd probably have to increase their intake of carbs or fats, so why get so agitated about it?

While they're not a substitute for a well rounded diet and are certainly no magic pill leading to fitness, protein supplements are useful.