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Old 13-Jul-04, 08:35 PM   #1
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Roids and ill effects


I was told today that abuse of roids can cause permanent shrinkage of testes and lack of wood.

Stuff on the web seemed to support that then I remembered a gym owner who lost all wood.

Kid at work is still saying a quick cycle can be harmless. However I have an addictive personality so I see that becoming a habit that is hard to break.

The list of things it does to your body was horrifying. The pills were actually worse on your body and that really shocked me, I thought they would be better. So that leaves needles and I was offered in college and just could not do it. Seemed like if your not even competing you have to be out of your mind to do that.

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Old 13-Jul-04, 08:48 PM   #2
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There is a big difference between use and abuse, Blade. Some people are prone to side effects, but for the majority the sides come from abuse. Using too much gear, not enough time off cycles, etc. If you have an addictive personality then staying away from any drug is a wise choice.
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Old 13-Jul-04, 09:20 PM   #3
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I seem to tolerate a lot of everything well. Do people confide in their doctor and get blood workup to find out how the liver/kidney is tolerating it?

Is it true that dipping in once, dropping out will leave perm size gains providing you continue to workout eat and sleep right?

I have given my wife fertility shots so I could prolly do it if it means safer for the organs but do you really have to shoot into the muscle itself?
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Old 13-Jul-04, 10:08 PM   #4
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Some may or may not tell a doctor because their doctor may put in their personnal record about using steroids, and insurance carriers look down on it. But getting bloodwork done is a good idea, but you need not a reason when asking for one. BTW, the harm of pills on the liver/kidney is pretty much exagerated online. I have heard they are not much worse than aspirin, so just be smart with it.
As long as you eat to maintain your mass, you shouldnt lose much of you gains. Granted if you use anabolics that increase water retention, you will lose weight but not necessarily mass when coming off.
You do have to shoot into the muscle. Sub-q injections take longer for the drug to enter the system.
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Old 14-Jul-04, 04:55 AM   #5
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I would only confide in my doctor if he is PRO steroid, otherwise you are opening the door to a great deal of downside lecturing.

Giving yourself a shot isn't that difficult. Be smart and do your homework.

Post cycle care in the nutrition & supplementation departments is critical. You should also cut back on your volume somewhat because your recovery will be surpressed, but keep using the heavy weights.

Sounds like someone is thinking seriously of using them.....
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Damn I thought this thread was gonna be about hemorrhoids
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Old 18-Jul-04, 01:41 PM   #7
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a doctor prosteroid what a paradox
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Old 18-Jul-04, 02:56 PM   #8
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a doctor prosteroid what a paradox
Most doctors realize that like anything, when done in moderation test is a very beneficial thing.
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Old 19-Jul-04, 03:26 PM   #9
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Id like to meet these doctors. Even if they realise the benefits of test they will not put themselves at any rliablity isk for a nonessentail prescription for injectables.
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Old 26-Jul-04, 04:37 PM   #10
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The list of things it does to your body was horrifying. The pills were actually worse on your body and that really shocked me, I thought they would be better. So that leaves needles and I was offered in college and just could not do it. Seemed like if your not even competing you have to be out of your mind to do that.
If steroids were really that dangerous nobody would use them!

Don't get caught up in the hype and propaganda bro, get beneath the bullsh1t and find out the facts!

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