Steroids "How many people use them"

[destroier]

Originally Posted by Gohan

I'm sure your post is going to bring down the former current and future AS users down. Seeing as you only have 3 posts.

What's that got to do with anything?

[Gohan]

Originally Posted by destroier

What's that got to do with anything?

Nothing at all.

[DaRkAnGel]

psst you don't wanna eat food either, it's cheatin'... after all if you don't your gains are slower...

[destroier]

Originally Posted by Gohan

Nothing at all.

Oh I see, you think you're some kind of big shot because you have over a thousand posts. My question is, how do you find time to workout if you're always online? The number of posts I have is completely irrelevant. For all you know I could be Arnold Schwarzenneger, but yet my opinions mean nothing just because I don't spend all day posting on this site.

[Gohan]

Originally Posted by DaRkAnGel

psst you don't wanna eat food either, it's cheatin'... after all if you don't your gains are slower...

Why didn't someone warn me before.

[destroier]

Originally Posted by DaRkAnGel

psst you don't wanna eat food either, it's cheatin'... after all if you don't your gains are slower...

Food is something the body needs. It's also not easy to force yourself to eat all day, in fact, it's a pain in the ass.

[Gohan]

Originally Posted by destroier

Oh I see, you think you're some kind of big shot because you have over a thousand posts. My question is, how do you find time to workout if you're always online? The number of posts I have is completely irrelevant. For all you know I could be Arnold Schwarzenneger, but yet my opinions mean nothing just because I don't spend all day posting on this site.

The mere fact that you know how to spell Arnolds name tells me you have spent your share time online or with your nose in a book idolizing the governor of Cali. Don't persist in hurting my feelings.

[Gohan]

Originally Posted by destroier

Food is something the body needs. It's also not easy to force yourself to eat all day, in fact, it's a pain in the ass.

It sure is, but it is only a small sacrafice to achieving your goals.

[destroier]

Originally Posted by Gohan

It sure is, but it is only a small sacrafice to achieving your goals.

Oh absolutely. My point is that it would be easy for me to take an injection every day, or to get pec implants and look big; but it's more rewarding to me to put in the hard work needed to achieve my goals.

[Gohan]

Originally Posted by destroier

Oh absolutely. My point is that it would be easy for me to take an injection every day, or to get pec implants and look big; but it's more rewarding to me to put in the hard work needed to achieve my goals.

Some people do not have the genetics to reach the goals they are striving for. Also taking "injections" requires vast knowledge and research. Alot of people that experiment with AS don't achieve long time gains due to lack of knowledge and research. So i applaud any one who has made gains naturally or with the assistance of a Suplement, because they have their body down to a science and understand the in's and out's of what it takes to sculpt their body in to what they have invisioned it.

[DaRkAnGel]

For many people taking roids, just because they are getting injections or whatever does not stop them from working hard. In fact, it allows them to work harder, to be more dedicated, and to go further then they could by any other means. If you think training with steroids is easy then i suggest you rethink that position.

Is it rewarding to train 5 hours a day each day and increase 20 pounds in muscle in a few months as opposed to taking roids and doing the same in less time? Most people taking roids train just like you do, probably the majority of the knowledged ones train much more heavily and are more dedicated than you as well... think about it. Most of the people on this forum who have chosen to learn about body building do this for life, not as a 2 week plan to get big, although sadly, many new members of this site view body building this way.

[destroier]

Originally Posted by DaRkAnGel

For many people taking roids, just because they are getting injections or whatever does not stop them from working hard. In fact, it allows them to work harder, to be more dedicated, and to go further then they could by any other means. If you think training with steroids is easy then i suggest you rethink that position.

No, it's not easy. It is easier than training without them though, hence them not being allowed in the olympics.

Is it rewarding to train 5 hours a day each day and increase 20 pounds in muscle in a few months as opposed to taking roids and doing the same in less time? Most people taking roids train just like you do, probably the majority of the knowledged ones train much more heavily and are more dedicated than you as well... think about it. Most of the people on this forum who have chosen to learn about body building do this for life, not as a 2 week plan to get big, although sadly, many new members of this site view body building this way.

I don't view it that way. I'm 21, I've been lifting off and on since I was 14 and I've gained and lost and gained back more weight than most professional bodybuilders could ever dream of. Yes, it is rewarding to do things the hard way and not to take injections that are going to damage my body.

[Gohan]

Originally Posted by destroier

I don't view it that way. I'm 21, I've been lifting off and on since I was 14 and I've gained and lost and gained back more weight than most professional bodybuilders could ever dream of. Yes, it is rewarding to do things the hard way and not to take injections that are going to damage my body.

Not to be an ass, but lets see the pics then. Obviously you have not done research on AS. So it is going to be an ongoing debate on why i think it is ok to Supplement AS and why you think it is cheating. SO this will be my final post in this thread. Feel free to beat me down in your following posts.

[destroier]

Originally Posted by Gohan

Not to be an ass, but lets see the pics then. Obviously you have not done research on AS. So it is going to be an ongoing debate on why i think it is ok to Supplement AS and why you think it is cheating. SO this will be my final post in this thread. Feel free to beat me down in your following posts.

I don't have any pics, but I'll go ahead and tell you I'm not very big. I've just started lifting again, and I'm not going to get big. I don't want to let myself get over 200lbs. I find that to be counterproductive as far as athleticism and martial arts goes. No, I haven't done my research on any steroids, but I know there aren't any safe ones; I've read it a million times. I equate it to corking your bat in baseball. Not everyone has the genetic makeup to be able to hit home runs, they have to cork, and that's what makes it cheating. Not trying to "beat you down", I just disagree with you.

[Gohan]

Originally Posted by destroier

I don't have any pics, but I'll go ahead and tell you I'm not very big. I've just started lifting again, and I'm not going to get big. I don't want to let myself get over 200lbs. I find that to be counterproductive as far as athleticism and martial arts goes. No, I haven't done my research on any steroids, but I know there aren't any safe ones; I've read it a million times. I equate it to corking your bat in baseball. Not everyone has the genetic makeup to be able to hit home runs, they have to cork, and that's what makes it cheating. Not trying to "beat you down", I just disagree with you.

Equating supplementing AS with corking a bat is half right. When Sosa was caught using a corked bat I’m sure over 50% of Americans had no clue what a corked bat was, let alone know how to properly cork a bat. Those numbers are even slimmer when compared to using AS as supplement with working out.