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Old 02-Feb-04, 12:10 AM   #1
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transdermal 4ad


Hi guys! I'm 27, 190 lbs, and have been lifting for 8 years. I'm getting ready to start my 2nd prohormone cycle and wanted some opinions. I plan on stacking some M1T (methyl 1 test) 2 a day (20 mg.) with some 4ad. I've found a place to get powdered 4ad, and I would like to concoct my own 4ad transdermal because it's cheaper and I can better control the dosage. I plan on using 500-600 mg. of 4ad a day. Anyone have any ideas on how to do this (make my own transdermal)? I'm a little squeamish about DMSO because of horror stories I have heard concerning sanitation of this stuff. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.
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Old 02-Feb-04, 12:55 AM   #2
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Hi guys! I'm 27, 190 lbs, and have been lifting for 8 years. I'm getting ready to start my 2nd prohormone cycle and wanted some opinions. I plan on stacking some M1T (methyl 1 test) 2 a day (20 mg.) with some 4ad. I've found a place to get powdered 4ad, and I would like to concoct my own 4ad transdermal because it's cheaper and I can better control the dosage. I plan on using 500-600 mg. of 4ad a day. Anyone have any ideas on how to do this (make my own transdermal)? I'm a little squeamish about DMSO because of horror stories I have heard concerning sanitation of this stuff. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.

From everything I have read, M1T is some CRAAAAAAZY stuff!!! Please don't run 20mg for longer than 2 weeks. I would suggest 10mg. As for the 4AD transdermal... I don't like to post PH sources on the bulletin board. It is to make it harder for the Gubberment to find them and read up on the new stuff like the methylated compounds and to make it so newbies have to do a little more research and digging before they can find this stuff.

PM me for a source for a transdermal gel without DMSO that you can mix the 4AD powder into.
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Old 05-Feb-04, 02:16 PM   #3
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Streax, thanks for the reply and sorry it took me so long to get back to you. My email is down and therefore can't pm. However, I found a very reasonably priced 4ad topical spray that delivers 200 mg. per serving on bulk nutrition. Please let me know if you have any other ideas regarding this M1t and transdermal 4ad stack.
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Old 09-Feb-04, 04:46 PM   #4
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can some one provide me information on this M1T?
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Old 09-Feb-04, 06:01 PM   #5
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It is methylated 1 Test and it is NOT something for anybody but the advanced steroid or prohormone user. It is way too powerful. It is quick acting and most people run cycles of it between 2 and 4 weeks. The majority have to stop at 2 weeks (even running as low as 10mg a day) due to a mysterious pain in the lower back that most people seem to experience. It is thought to be pain in the kidneys, but despice many people doing blood tests and other experiments we can't figure out what causes the pain. I don't know of anyone that has dosed more than 40mg per day for any longer than a week or two. My suggestion is to LEAVE IT ALONE and stick with what we know is relatively safe till more is figured out about this stuff. You have to remember the only information that we know about these chemicals is from people who take it and get together and share their results. These chemicals are not approved by anyone or have gone through any extensive testing before being shipped to the masses by the supplement industry trying to make a buck.

There are many experienced androgen users who terminate their cycles early and swear never to use it again. The scariest thing that I have heard about this stuff so far is prolactin induced gyno (m1T is a nonaromatizing compound and lowers your testosterone and estrogen levels extremely low as quickly as any steroid or prohormone out there) Prolactin induced gyno can be really nasty, and I know of at least two people who actually have started having white excretions out of their nipples from m1T (something that is NOT common) and nolva won't do you too much good if your estrogen levels are already low... read: you are along for a not so fun ride if you get this side effect.

My final advice, leave this compound to the pin cushion lab rat people to test on themselves for a while till we can figure this stuff out better.
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Old 09-Feb-04, 06:28 PM   #6
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Streax, you got the best info on pro-hormones of anyone I know. Thanks brotha!
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Yea, good info.
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Old 09-Feb-04, 07:04 PM   #8
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Thanks, guys. For some reason Prohormones just really interest me. I like to keep up with electronic and internet technology and prohormones seem to be the bodybuilding equivalent. The more I read about M1T the more it scares me that any 18 year old kid can buy this **** though. It has been verified to suppress natural test in 1 to 3 days!!!
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