Tribulus....

rookie · 23-May-05, 02:38 AM

ok ive decided that ive been dieting along time and training hard for about 6 years, and now i wanted to add some extra test. in me to help progress my results. i bought a cheaper brand of tribulus with 250mg a pill, and guarentees 40 percent steroidal saponins. i heard that you need something else in it to help your body absorb it more, and im wondering if i should be taking an estrogen blocker with this. i was informed that tribulus is probably your safest bet at increasing test without havin to much side affects. i also noticed my temper went up a ton, and weirdly my acne went away, and my balls kinda tingle after taking about 1,000 mg. also i want to kno if should be cycling it so my body doesnt get used to it. the first day i took 500mg, the next day i take 750, the next day i take 1000, then i take 1250, 1500, then i dont take it for three days, is this pointless or what. sorry for such a long message but im very curious on the supp im taking. thanks for all your help.

Suareezay · 23-May-05, 09:38 AM

people usually go 2 weeks on 2 weeks off or 4 and 4.

TrueProtein.com has tribulus at 90% saponins.

You can also use ZMA at night before bed. If anything, youll at least be getting better sleep and some vital nutrients with it.

Lift2Live · 23-May-05, 10:37 AM

I've seen a general concensus of cycling at either; 5 days on 2 off or 4 weeks on 2 off. Taking it in pyramiding doses though, isn't going to matter. Easiest way is to just take it at full dose Monday thru Friday and take Sat. & Sun. off. Some people say you don't even need to cycle it and i'm reading alot more research that the gain in test. is too minor to matter. I would hit up the ZMA as Suarez says. I think it's more proven effective. I'd finish out the bottle but i'm personally going to leave Trib out of my list of supps. after this.

Suareezay · 23-May-05, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lift2Live

I've seen a general concensus of cycling at either; 5 days on 2 off or 4 weeks on 2 off. Taking it in pyramiding doses though, isn't going to matter. Easiest way is to just take it at full dose Monday thru Friday and take Sat. & Sun. off. Some people say you don't even need to cycle it and i'm reading alot more research that the gain in test. is too minor to matter. I would hit up the ZMA as Suarez says. I think it's more proven effective. I'd finish out the bottle but i'm personally going to leave Trib out of my list of supps. after this.

Honestly I think the first time I tried trib I experienced a noticable increase in size and strength. It was using AST's stuff. it did break my back out, which meant it was doing something to my hormones.

I tried pinnacles anabolx tribulus, and biotests tribex500 (everyone recommended this one to me for some reason) and neither had any noticeable effect whatsoever.

I think tribulus works best at restoring your bodys natural test levels, like after a cycle, or if your low for whatever reason. If you have normal test levels, dont expect much from it.

rookie · 23-May-05, 01:11 PM

so an estrogen blocker is out of the question while using this product?

rookie · 23-May-05, 02:48 PM

and also i was wondering how often i should take it and how many mg i should be taking a day, help me please.

Suareezay · 23-May-05, 03:18 PM

i dont think an anti-e would help anything. Its more for when you come off a cycle and your test production is shut down. I could be wrong though.

You should take it according to what it says on the bottle. I think i remember most being 2-3 times a day, cant remember the dose.

Maxgain · 24-May-05, 12:13 PM

The increases Tribulus causes are not significant enough to worry about cycling and yes it does cause a corresponding increase in eostradiol but this is definatly no reason for the complications of an eostrogen blocker unless you wanted to try something natural such as chrysin.

Lift2Live · 24-May-05, 02:50 PM

At my age (30), test. levels start to decrease which is why I started using Trib. in the first place. If my levels were low then it will help, if not then it won't. I do however notice a big difference in my attitude/aggressiveness but I am starting to think that it's a bit more to do with the ZMA, that's why I am gonna leave trib. out after this. Been taking 500mg 3 times/day if that helps. Every brand is a little different though.

rookie · 24-May-05, 04:23 PM

im only 19, i take zma too, but why would zma make you more aggressive, its just zinc, magnesium and vitamin b?

Lift2Live · 24-May-05, 05:45 PM

Zinc and magnesium help support healthy testosterone levels and the form in which ZMA is in (zinc monomethionine aspartate), is supposed to be more potent.

Shamrock · 06-Jun-05, 08:11 PM

I did 2x cycles of Trib 2x years ago. The gains were definately evident as the recouperation time was less than 40% of what it once was. Thus allowing me to, idiotically, complete HIT style training. I definately advise against both Trib supplementation and HIT training, but the latter is a whole different ball of wax.

After almost stabbing a guy at work with a screwdriver, some bed-room issues that I won't delve into, and combination of reduced memory and slower reactions I quit. Not a moment too soon as I was seriously contemplating upgrading to Androstenine (illegal in Ontario and most provinces besides the Maritimes).

Semi-old post I know, but I got talked into it and was told there were absolutely no side effects, just wanted to offer up my short and last experience with Trib.
Brendan

pmcgough · 07-Jun-05, 01:54 PM

you have mental problems...trib shouldn't increase test enough to do that

pmcgough · 07-Jun-05, 01:55 PM

just joking...but trib isn't that great of a product imo...i think it's quite overhyped

rookie · 07-Jun-05, 03:55 PM

i kno this is personal but what kinda bedroom problems did you have? i just dont want to have any sorta problems