VPX Redline?!

[Jroc]

I was wondering what peoples opinions/experiences are with this product. Although relatively new, it is getting a lot of praise, and thus I am interested and would like to try it. My main reason for using it is to lose weight, a fair bit. I am around 200 pounds, give or take 1 or 2, and about 5'11". I would ideally like to lose about 20 to 25 pounds, and maintain/increase my muscle. Right now I'm on a 4 day workout routine, and on the days off, and possibly some of the days I workout, I will be doing cardio. I usually hit the bike for a good 15 to 20 minutes, then I will use the elyptical or the treadmill and run for another 15 to 20 (more if I can sustain it).

Lastly, as far as eating and supplements go, I eat ok... but nothing great. It is the one area that is hard for me to control because of school and work, there isn't much chance to make good meals and always have them on me. So I do my best with that. As for supplements, well, I am going to start creatine on Monday, and cycle it 1 month at a time. And I also take muscletech protein after my workouts, which I am looking to change by taking it morning and mid-day. I also eat a Jamieson Slim Down bar for vitamins when I am out and don't have a chance to grab a small meal.

Any help/advice would be much appreciated as to what everyone thinks of VPX Redline, and whether it would be right for me or not.

Thanks

JRoc

[dsade]

One of our guys brought us a bunch of samples at the Mr. Olympia.

Granted, I had eaten more than a few protein bar samples the entire day, but about 45 minutes after taking the redline, I felt VERY crappy. Started feeling nauseous and light-headed. The sweating was VERY unpleasant, sort of "Racked with the Flu/Fever" kind of feeling.

Other than that experience, I cant help you with effectiveness.

[jplayer]

If you want a good thermogenic go get you some Tight by SAN and vasapro ephedra HCL..... THAT STACK will get you jacked up beyond belief!!!

Originally Posted by dsade

One of our guys brought us a bunch of samples at the Mr. Olympia.

Granted, I had eaten more than a few protein bar samples the entire day, but about 45 minutes after taking the redline, I felt VERY crappy. Started feeling nauseous and light-headed. The sweating was VERY unpleasant, sort of "Racked with the Flu/Fever" kind of feeling.

Other than that experience, I cant help you with effectiveness.

[dsade]

Originally Posted by jplayer

If you want a good thermogenic go get you some Tight by SAN and vasapro ephedra HCL..... THAT STACK will get you jacked up beyond belief!!!

I am waiting on one more ingredient for a fat burner of my own design. We should be releasing it by March.

I have been taking a beta formula (minus the one ingredient) and it seems to be effective so far, without the jitters.

I might even ask for a few beta testers from this board. :-)

[jplayer]

Originally Posted by dsade

I am waiting on one more ingredient for a fat burner of my own design. We should be releasing it by March.

I have been taking a beta formula (minus the one ingredient) and it seems to be effective so far, without the jitters.

I might even ask for a few beta testers from this board. :-)

Dsade I would love to be a beta tester unfortunately right now is not the best time. I am on the san tight + vasapro stack right now and have been on that for the past week. I just started stacking absolved with it yesterday and will be continuing this stack for the next two weeks except for on the weekends when I will drop the san tight and vasapro. After that I will quit for 3 or four weeks and running no thermos to let my body recoupe. Then in March I will start back up the thermos but with VPX clenbutrx only!! Im trying to stagger all of the products and use differing products also to try to avoid adaptation!!

[dsade]

Originally Posted by jplayer

Dsade I would love to be a beta tester unfortunately right now is not the best time. I am on the san tight + vasapro stack right now and have been on that for the past week. I just started stacking absolved with it yesterday and will be continuing this stack for the next two weeks except for on the weekends when I will drop the san tight and vasapro. After that I will quit for 3 or four weeks and running no thermos to let my body recoupe. Then in March I will start back up the thermos but with VPX clenbutrx only!! Im trying to stagger all of the products and use differing products also to try to avoid adaptation!!

Interesting approach. Are you going to be keeping a log here (or elsewhere) to track progress?

This would be something I would like to follow along with.

[jplayer]

Originally Posted by dsade

Interesting approach. Are you going to be keeping a log here (or elsewhere) to track progress?

This would be something I would like to follow along with.

I did a log/journal on my prohormone cycle a while back and it didnt seem to draw much interest for the time that I put into it so Im not going to be keeping a log this go round.

Whatever I feel works though I will definatley rave about the products. Ive been on the vasapro and san tight for one week and I can definately say that it is an effective thermo stack. As far as the absolved this is only my second day so I cant really tell that much but I will definately monitor my progress as I go along.

As far as my diet I am doing a staggered- constantly lowering calorie diet

I started out at 3000 daily calories as my median. So on cardio days I would have 3000- except for one day a week I would have like 2600 just to shock my system really good and then on workout days I would have up to 3400 calories. I ran that for two weeks then my median dropped to 2600.. That is where I am at right now. I will be constantly dwindling my median day calories until I hit 1800... But the whole time I will keep a contant staggered calorie range throughout the week though as to not allow my body to adapt.

The food groups I am allowing myself are very strict.
My fats I am limiting as much as possible to only good fats.
My carbs are only coming from low GI sources except for the 1 or two pieces of fruit that I have a day... The rest is oatmeal--- brown rice--- sweetpotatoes. Absolutely no bread not even whole wheat/grain
Protein sources are from chicken and 96/4 extra lean ground beef mostly with the occasional tuna packet and MRP (myoplex deluxe the new formulation) Im not really worried about salmon and other healthy fishes that have good fats for us because I take in at least two tblsp daily of flaxseed oil and my fat intake has been up to par...

I make sure to split my calories into 6 meals on cardio days with virtually every meal being the same calorie range - IE if I have 2400 calories that day. I have 6 meals by 400 calories each.

On workout days I have 7 meals and divide the range up so each meal is extremely close to the same calories.


As far as your new supplement let me know what you think about it... Maybe I can switch out the clenbutrx for it(even though I already have the clenbutrx). I am assuming that you are not including ephedra in it because of the upcoming ban but would it be good to stack with something like vasapro??? or would that be to much on your system??

[dsade]

Your diet plan looks very good. You certainly know what you are doing.

Be sure, as your calories dwindle, you keep an eye out for signs of Leptin drop - and incorporate a refeed day, if needed.

The new fat burner is going to be working on the same beta-adrenergic systems as Ephedrine, so it won't be a good idea to stack them. Hopefully, this will be as effective as the EC stack.

We shall know soon.

[GM NOV8D]

be VERY careful with the redline. follow the directions very carefully. i drank two bottles once, and could not stay still, i felt like i was on tweak. it was so bad i actually had to have a friend drive for me because at the amount i was moving around, i was scared i was going to get in an accident.

that being said, i'll drink a can in the morning, and that **** works wonders. its awesome.
and what dsade said - you can get a naseous/gross feeling. so be careful with it.

[im talking about the actual packaged drink, not the little syrup packets which taste disgusting]

[Tiestolive]

dsade. id love to be a beta tester, i lost 15 lbs in past month and rite now im trying to loose about 10 lbs before summer i have a good diet, i try running at least two times a week but these ten lbs r so hard to loose. so yea lol idd love to try the new fat burner. thnnxxxx.