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Old 06-Apr-02, 10:32 AM   #1
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Hi! I am relatively skinny but I have this extra pudge on my tummy that I just cant get to go away. I run everyday and all I and exercise my abs every other day. Anyways, I was wondering if any one has used this Ab Solutions cutting gel stuff cause they make it sound all good, but I'm kinda skeptical. But besides that does anyone have any recommedations of stuff I could use to drop the pudge? lmao. Thankyou

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Old 08-Apr-02, 09:24 PM   #2
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Well, Jessie, you are a very pretty young woman and you seem to have lots going for you. As for your question, yes, cutting gels do work. It is good you are running and watching your diet. You can make your own by using Yohimbine hcl and some kind of carrier like Ben Gay. Here are some tips on useage and making your own:

TIPS AND TRICKS- CARRIERS AND PENETRATION ENHANCERS

1. apply after hot shower

2. use a body scrub to get rid of dead skin- This should be done 2-3 times a week

3. It may be of some benefit to swab the area with diluted alcohol prior to admin- though this is probably only really beneficial if not applying after a shower.

4. use one or more carriers- depending on the site of application and ***- if you are older or a woman you will need less penetration as well

CARRIERS

a. Organic carriers- aloe vera, while aloe vera gel is effective, the use of pure liquid aloe vera is better and thus reccomended. This carrier also hydrates the skin

b. menthol either diluted(see oils liste below) or in a cream base like aspercreme(1%menthol) or bengay(16%menthol) (which may itself have some localized effects- aspirin has been shown to inhibit oxidative phosphoralation) salycilic acid (aspirin is also a penetration enhancer). This category includes peppermint(50% l-menthol), wintergreen(50-70%) and spearmint oils(50-70%)- all of which are excellent carriers and penetration enhancers- if using oils be sure to dilute about 8 parts water or aloe vera to 1 part oil.

c. Capsicum- contained in several cream products( the more capiscum the better)- will increase absorption, may have some localized effect on fat burning. This may be to harsh for some- perhaps best diluted and added to other carriers.

e. Pluronic gel- aka phlogel- should only be used in areas with poor blood flow- as it will dramatically increase uptake. This is difficult to obtain and probably not worth the effort as similar results can be obtained cheaper and mopre easily.

DOSAGE- this is very individual- but you could start with 20-40mg per application and work your way up- 2-3 applications per day- and use different sites during the same day- ie dont do thighs twice in the same day.

Yohimbine may be taken in a variety of ways though the most common and comfortable pattern, with less water retention is 3-4 days on and 1-2 days off.

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Old 19-Apr-02, 03:03 PM   #3
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sorry! spot reduction is not likely


Hi! I agree with Ironman on one thing. You are pretty. However, you're being misled (plain and simple) about gels. Some of us are "gifted" in the way of extra bulges here and there even though we don't want it.

So, with every good/bad news scenario (such as this dilemma of yours), I'll present the bad first:

Bad news: Excluding, of course, the advent of surgical means,
YOU CANNOT SPOT REDUCE FAT. Sorry, but "spot reduction"
(or losing inches/fat in one area while not reducing others) is NOT possible. The gels that are produced will generate heat in those areas where they are applied and, therefore, produce perspiration. And most people mistakenly believe that if they are sweating, they are losing weight - or fat. Well, that's another myth altogether. But it is sufficient to say that a sweaty belly does not necessarily mean that fat is being reduced. Afterall, you run don't you? Don't you sweat? Yet still you have the unwanted tummy pooch. Gels are good for warming up joint areas before workouts. That's it! Leave it on the Walmart shelf and use the money for a good nutrition plan.

Good news: While spot reducing is a myth (that happens to fuel profits for gel companies), gaining muscle while losing fat is NOT. Fat such as what you are trying to rid yourself of stays because if is fueled by either fat or carbohydrates. That is not to say that you eat badly. Not at all. But you should concentrate on the fat to carb to protein ratio that you eat daily. Insulin production is the key to it all and carbs and fat - yes fat - are the key catalysts for insulin production. You WANT to keep insulin production as steady as possible. The way to do that is make a majority of your daily meals LEAN protein - about 70% actually (ie; very lean poultry, tuna, skim milk, and whey protein to name a few - a variety is best to get as many diff. amino acids as possible). And whey protein supplements a few times a day is a good way to get good quality protein without the fat or extra carbs. As much of the other 30% as possible should be from low-glycemic carbohydrates. These are basically vegetables without high levels of natural sugars like ... well.... most vegetables. Fruits are good to eat - and eat every day - but they should be limited to early day meals or right before a workout. Breads and starches (such as potatoes or pasta) are ok too, but limit them. Again, most of your carbs should be from the plain old "boring-ass" vegetables. And fat? Do not buy into the hype that fat should be ingested in any quanty. Yes, you need it. Yes, you should have it! But intentionally eat it? Hell, NO! Look, if you try to eat say... 5% or 10% fat of your daily intake, you'll get 30%. Attempt to eat as low as possible - zero percent is (thank God) impossible. But try to eliminate fats as much as possible and you will probably come out to about 5% to 10% anyway. And bam, you're done!

NOTE: Just because your are eating six times a day, does not mean you are eating more. You are attempting to spread out the usual amount over more eating times. And NEVER eat until you get that comfortable FULL feeling. Hey, I like that feeling too; especially at Thanksgiving. But that feeling - and the habit that goes with it - is a majore "pooch" producer.

The last thing to do is spread out your meals with equal ratios of protein/carbs to at least 6 meals a day. What this will do:

..... give rise to an equal production of insulin which will in turn reduce any lethargic feeling you may have throughout the day, increase alertness, increase metabolism (which means you actually burn more calories a day EVEN IF YOU DONT DECREASE OVERALL CALORIES OF ANY KIND AT ANY LEVEL), muscle growth will increase, glutamine production will increase, growth hormone production will increase because deeper sleep patterns will ensue........ and on and on and on...........

All of this simply because you manipulated your body into a state of natural and more efficient insulin production; which is what it's been asking for - NO, screaming for - since you were born.

One last thing: Train with weights. Keep running if you want. That's great. But running is NOT the best for losing fat over the long haul. WHAT? That's right! Not the best. Building musle is. and weightlifting is what build's muslce. Ok, a brief explanation. When you run, for how long does your body use fat for fuel and therefore reduce overall bodyfat? Answer: for as long as you run and for about an hour - cool down period - afterwards. That's it. But when you build a pound of muscle, it burns energy - and yes FAT 24/7. So remember this quote from me with respect to fat loss.................

"10 POUNDS OF MUSCLE IS WORTH 10,000 MILES OF ROADWORK"

Boils down to one question. Do you wanta burn fat 24/7 or 1.5 hours a day? The choice is yours. The books printed in the 50's that say you have to aerobicize in some way before your burn fat are outdated and well .. quite frankly. .. WRONG! So start lifting if you aren't already. Good luck!

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